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This is the exact post I was thinking about as well

Why are there so many conspiracy theories in this thread? Why don't y'all take this with even just a tiny little bit of nuance?

There have always been conspiracy theories regarding Proton, but the stuff in this thread is just insane.

No, he didn't go "full MAGA". Do you even know what "full MAGA" looks like? He used the official Proton Mastodon account to participate in the discussion (which he definitely shouldn't have done), because he doesn't have his own account. Yes, that's definitely the wrong thing to do, but it's not "the whole company supporting Trump", it's just a CEO who used his company's account to spread some bullshit.

Obviously Andy Yen needs to immediately step down as CEO, something that might realistically happen if the community outrage is big enough, since Proton's source of revenue are subscriptions sold directly to its users. Spreading conspiracy theories definitely won't achieve this goal though.

I couldn't even access it, since they block VPN users. Thankfully there's Redlib.

The other day they've been exposed for backpedalling on their promises to spare inactive accounts that were created before 2024 until next year from the inactive accounts deletion policy.

Honestly, where's the issue with that? Why should they continue to host some 10 year old account, when they only lose money by doing so. Proton is not Google, they don't earn any money from users on the free plan, because they don't scan your emails and sell your data. If you want to be in control, use your own domain (which Proton as well as other services like Tuta support btw) and store your emails offline (e.g. in Thunderbird).

Your point is complete and utter bullshit.

You could say that they say so in their legal term. Nobody read them

It doesn't take a genius to figure out that ANYONE hosting an email service, whether it's a for-profit company or a collective, has to abide by laws and regulations.

everybody still think proton is top notch on safety

Their marketing point is that your emails are stored with zero-access encryption, which is true. Only an IP address was disclosed under the 2021 subpoena that you are talking about, something that you can easily avoid by using a VPN or Tor. Proton Mail even offers an official onion service.

This is one of the dumbest conversation I ever had on this platform.

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Hexbear is pretty widely defederated

Lemmygrad too I guess

It's always a good idea to check Internet Archive's Wayback Machine

https://web.archive.org/web/20250115190623/https://mastodon.social/@protonprivacy/113833073219145503

Fuck fascism and Trump supporters, but let's stay factual on this one:

that snitched ecelogist activist to french intelligence

They were forced to under Swiss law. They usually appeal these things in court, but this order was given in a way, where it couldn't be appealed. They did everything they could here, but in the end, they still have to follow legal obligations of their jurisdiction.

I don't think the whole company is terrible, but fuck Andy Yen. If there's a big enough outrage, we might get him to step down.

Heroic makes it even easier

Not really, but Instagram and WhatsApp are still massive