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[–] [email protected] 56 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Reminder that "Stockholm syndrome" was invented because the police fucked up a hostage situation so badly that the hostages felt unsafe with the police and had to negotiate their own release with their captors who were behaving more rationally than the police.

idk what to call this, but it's much worse than the event Stockholm syndrome is named for.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 years ago

Malcolm X had a few choice terms for this shit

[–] [email protected] 45 points 2 years ago

This is good advice though. I will use my vote for others and I will use it wisely. By not voting for supporters of genocide I will show the entire world that I personally don't support genocide. This is the most important election of our time, make sure you tell the whole world that you oppose genocide by not voting for candidates that support genocide

[–] [email protected] 39 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Like I'm sorry but this has nuggets of comedy gold in it. Parts of it totally have the skeleton of a funny copypasta that I could totally see some witty member of a site like this (not me lol) writing this as a meme.

Like "Dems put my family in a concentration camp. But I voted dem. They ignored my human rights as a LGBTQ person. But I voted Dem"

This is some cuck shit lol.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Everybody pretending like they live in a swing state. A handful of states and about 10% of the population are going to determine the president while the 90% of us scream into the void

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I had some redditor with serious voter brainworms tell me last cycle I had to vote for Biden despite living in a Dem stronghold because it would somehow make it harder for Trump to rig the election? Like if the election is rigged I'm just gonna vote for La Riva so I can sleep at night, thanks.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

because it would somehow make it harder for Trump to rig the election

I think the logic there is "look at how many more votes Biden got, he clearly won" as if the nationwide vote count means literally anything.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago

you remember how they said Hillary won the popular vote and Trump apologised and made her president

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 years ago

Lol they don’t determine shit. 270 guys will determine the president, and they don’t even have to vote for their own party’s nominee.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 2 years ago

Jesus titty-fucking Christ, 140 characters was such a good idea.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It means working from within the Democratic party to make it better, even when it has betrayed its values.

What values?

I fought for redress for my community and have spent my life ensuring that America understood that we could not betray our Constitution in such a way ever again.

Constitution? That shit was talking about white men only and we're really gonna lean on it?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

It means working from within the Democratic party to make it better, even when it has betrayed its values.

Because liberals like using interpersonal violence in their metaphors for politics, how is this any different than staying in an abusive relationship because you think you can fix your partner? Like yeah, maybe you make some progress; maybe you might even have periods where you love each other, but after the 500th black eye, you might want to reconsider the relationship.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

The latest Hell of Presidents honestly did a great job of describing this same phenomenon, going from Lincoln to Arthur.

You had a guy who was constrained by the demands of the political moment (Free Real Estate) who managed to leverage that demand into genuine revolutionary change. And he was empowered by a groundswell of ideological supporters, zealous converts, and economic interests who simply clocked where the wind was blowing. But then the machinery of politics took over the show, the ideologues were jettisoned in favor of compromises, and the only thing political leadership cared about was the consolidation of additional powers.

Takei is a Native American living under the Garfield administration and staunchly asserting the need for strong abolitionist Republicans, when the party has long since abandoned abolition in favor of professionalizing the administrative state. He's been subjected to a litany of abuses under his own guys, but all he can see is the Bloody Shirt of prior opposition groups. And he's fucking old. All he can care about is the next administration, because at 86 years old he simply isn't going to be around to see what 2028 or 2032 or 2040 has in store.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 years ago (1 children)

If you can't stand them at their worst, you don't deserve them at their best!

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 years ago

"Excuse me Joe, but your worst is genocide and your best is occasional wavering support for minimal workers rights while keeping the povicidal status quo."

"DOG FACED PONY SOLDIER!!1!"

[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 years ago

Real Charles Taylor hours.

"He killed my ma, he killed my pa, but I will vote for him."

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 years ago

A whipped dog won't bite its master.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 years ago

I really thought this was going to end up like W.E.B. Debois's "Why I won't vote".

Stupid post. Basically, "Democrats have done nothing for me, but I'll keep voting for them."

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 years ago

I'll bite. Let's say you 100% agree with this argument.

You can use this argument to make the case for Trump. This blade cuts both ways.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 years ago

The Democrat party's values are taking bribes and cynical pork barrel politics.

Or Andrew Jackson who was basically an 18th century crypto bro

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago (7 children)

Either we choose imperfect progress, or we default back into stagnanation and rotting.

It’s a pretty simple choice in my book

[–] [email protected] 49 points 2 years ago

Indeed. It’s not perfect, but refusing to participate in a stagnating system by not voting is the only reasonable path forward. The alternative is endorsing the rot.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 2 years ago (2 children)

What's the concrete example of imperfect progress we have to choose from right now?

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 years ago

Slowly or quickly progressing towards disaster!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

As in digging mass graves?

[–] [email protected] 38 points 2 years ago

Can you provide 3 concrete examples of systemic progress the current administration has accomplished?

[–] [email protected] 38 points 2 years ago

Progress would be so cool

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 years ago
[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

now you see why revolution, even with all its inherent messiness and chaos, is inevitable and necessary comrade.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

But being a liberal, being a progressive

Also being rich and have aligned material interests

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

Stockholm syndrome is a made up concept invented by Swedish cops to explain how they could bungle a hostage negotiation so badly that the hostages thought the criminals were more rational