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[–] [email protected] 42 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Our prisoners, their hostages

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 years ago

Yeah we’re focusing on the children vs people 18 and younger, but even just prisoners vs hostages is wrong. In what way are those child prisoners not hostages?

[–] [email protected] 30 points 2 years ago

That’s how they view the Palestinians. They’re just numbers for them. Purely abstract.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Christ, lol. You know it's the editor making the change because he forgot to take out the "also".

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

It seems the screenshot was doctored or The Guardian have edited it. here is the article.

The hostages to be freed are women and children, and the Palestinian prisoners are also women and children, both sides have confirmed.

Also further up in the article is the following

The exchange of female and child hostages and prisoners was due to take place on Thursday but was postponed as last-minute logistical issues were worked out during 24 hours of frantic diplomacy.

source

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago

The Guardian edited after the fact. An archive link has been posted elsewhere in this thread

[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

noticed this same thing while my parents were watching the news last night. israeli "women and children" were exchanged for palestinian "women and minors". they literally dehumanize palestinians whenever possible

Death to America

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 years ago (1 children)

My face when a Palestinian woman gives birth and a tiny little man comes out

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 years ago

I can’t believe I used to give that rag money

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

It seems the screenshot was doctored or The Guardian have edited it. here is the article.

The hostages to be freed are women and children, and the Palestinian prisoners are also women and children, both sides have confirmed.

Also further up in the article is the following

The exchange of female and child hostages and prisoners was due to take place on Thursday but was postponed as last-minute logistical issues were worked out during 24 hours of frantic diplomacy.

source

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Archived version from yesterday has the wording from the screenshot: https://web.archive.org/web/20231123160730/https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/nov/23/israel-hamas-ceasefire-and-hostage-deal-wont-happen-before-friday-israeli-officials-say

This articles are live and often gets dozens of edits post "publication", the wording in the current version isn't how it always was. In fact an even earlier version of that article had different wording in that paragraph as well.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Who is doing the edits and why?

I wonder if you could track edits and the message they’re trying to convey against the numbers of readers of an article for each edit.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago

There's some headline edit tracker I've seen people use before, but I wouldn't know where to find it