They also don't understand the hellish nightmare that every step of the job hunting process is for neurodivergent people
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The slightly younger Xer junior boomers also have no idea how much "open offices" fucking suck for anyone who isn't a dudebro social parasite that needs to make noise and harass coworkers and subordinates all day.
Every day the noise and lights and constant interruptions/task changing are driving me insane and I'm so fucking drained I can't jump through all the hoops to look for a new job
I'll probably just have a massive nervous breakdown and send a resignation after I leave and can't stop crying for hours
I know this feeling, and I really hope it doesn't come to that. I hope you get free and find something that makes you feel fulfilled and cared for.
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one of my boomer relatives always said the best time to start looking for a new job is right after you got hired
A rare example of a boomer being based and not trapped in their shit mentality
We love our good boomers folks 
The fucked up bit is that they are back writing their own history. Data shows people job hopped way more in the 60's and 70's than now. Job hopping us a sign if a healthy economy.
I live in Japan, and it's insane here. I get judged both for changing jobs and spending too much time in deadend ESL jobs with no hope of a promotion. I once got caught off-guard at an interview because it was my first one in 2 years and I'd forgotten that they'd want a reason for why I left a job more than 15 years ago.
That's fucking insane, 15 years I'd be hard pressed to remember anything really
I figured out 40 years ago that the only way to get any significant pay increase was to hop jobs. Loyalty to the company is a suckers bet, they have zero loyalty to you, you owe nothing to them.
Exactly, I'm tempted to not even do a two weeks notice and instead cashout my PTO and do a personal vacay
This is the way. Give them as much notice as they give workers when they shut down the jobs and kick us to the curb. Fuck the bosses.
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you're laughing. You betrayed your company and you're laughing
"Thanks for training me fam, now peace out fuckers I'm getting my bag" 
Why did boomers have kids anyway? They all seem to hate us. My dad loves reminding me how he didn't really want kids and how he hated my mom. Why the fuck did you marry and impregnate here then?!?!?!?
that sounds more like a personal issue your dad has possibly linked to societal pressure
I've meet a lot of millennials who say their parents acted annoyed and off put by them, or just flat out say they didn't want them like mine. I've meet boomers who say they hate their kids. I think there is a trend here.
fair enough I have never observed a boomer who I didn't think sincerely loves their kids though so I don't think it's a very common thing
I mean that's good for you.
My dads actually alright for a boomer dad, he just has a big mouth and no filter so will just randomly say insensitive shit that any smarter person would understand is dumb to say. He says he's happy he had kids now but that our mom did kinda bully him into having us initially.
My childhood was mid and my parents were flawed but they weren't abusive or anything. But I have met a lot of boomers who seem to hate their kids and younger people in general.
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Really? I wish i could also only encounter these boomers.
Why did boomers have kids anyway? They all seem to hate us.
That is a really good question. Even if they don't say they hate us, the fact that they got theirs and kicked away the ladder, after selling us a bill of goods about college meaning we'll all be set. Then enjoying like 25 years of avacado toast and millenials are killing the x industry bullshit, never asking why we don't actually have houses. Seems like hate to me.
They put their parents in homes and are keeping us from having them. Its fascinating how in virtually one generation they completely broke how families have lived and taken care of each other for like 100,000 years.
Disclaimer: generational stuff is bullshit, and "not all boomers" or whatever random boomer defenders need to here.
Disclaimer: generational stuff is bullshit, and "not all boomers" or whatever random boomer defenders need to here.
People say this, but idk who, and I can't find it myself, but someone here posts stats sometimes that seem to back up the stereotype. Boomers weren't only more right leaning than their kids, but even their parents, apparently the silent generation was more progressive than Boomers.
And while everyone likes to focus on the counter culture of the 60s and 70s, in reality the far right was doing well with the youth back then too. The 70s was actually a great time for young republicans groups. The hippies were anything a reaction to the reactionary tendencies of their peers.
Idk what to blame it one but it does seem this one generation did veer way more regressive than most others.
Idk what to blame it one but it does seem this one generation did veer way more regressive than most others.
They're are material reasons for this. Its just still very shocking and feels very personal if you had the misfortune to have them as parents.
The perception of what is normal to boomers is so extermely abnormal to basically all of humanity. They lived through an exterme anomaly but instead of being aware or greatful, they instead believe that the extreme prosperity and privelege enjoyed by white Americans during that time is actually the norm for all people.
It's a combination of societal norms to get married and have kids and the instinctual drive most people have to have sex (which obviously leads to kids). The societal norm of having kids is likely due to economic concerns because for most of history children would provide free agricultural labour. This will probably slowly shift as having kids is now an economic drain because we don't want kids to work in the mines.
The "Old Boys Club" isn't a profit maximizing decision so we don't do it anymore.
I think back in their days, staying at a company actually did work out to being paid more whereas it's flipped these days. I've had these same discussions with my boomer parents too.
I'm betraying my company
It's legal, it's normal, people upset about "mercenary" attitudes for fucking jobs should experience being out of money lol ("mercenary" as in going to the highest bidder, not killing for money, lol). They are just mad we are playing their game without their shitty houserules that say to ignore the rules that help us
mercenary
this word technically just refers to being motivated my money or material considerations. Yeah you got me I do my job because I want to be paid a wage
Tbh I only wrote the brackets bc it might look as if I am condoning joining the military for $$$, I don't want to be misunderstood about that
Yeah I have absolutely no qualms about saying ignore your parents, they're completely wrong.
Some interviewers definitely care about length of time at your previous jobs. I interview people for software development jobs and I'm a developer myself. I'm not going to pass up on someone for it or anything, but if a person has left a recent job in less than a year I want to know why. I don't want to spend 3 months getting someone up to speed on our project just to have them leave 3 months later.
For a lot of jobs you're right, no one cares, but for anything with longer training periods, licensing exams, or other upfront costs job hopping is a potential problem
I want to know why.
Yeah but this is a lie 100% of the time. lmao
if a person has left a recent job in less than a year I want to know why.
I had to... uhh... take care of a sick family member "full-time" (unsaid: it was myself). I'm a great wage slave, I promise!
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I'm at 8 months, almost 9, and tbh my answer is going to be geared towards "I want to utilize greater aspects of my educational skillset towards project development outside of direct care interactions" or some shit like that
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job hopping also kills any possibility of union building so no matter what you do you are still being played by capitalist interests. you're not being a fucking rebel by getting 5% more of your surplus value after moving halfway across the country
Yeah it's not rebellion but it does have an upward effect. Be nice if people just stayed put and massively bullied the boss collectively instead of very slightly bullying the boss on their own
Depending on what industry you work in, you either gotta be ready to job hop or get fucked over by restructuring. I made the mistake of trying to make good on a commitment to a job. Now I've been jobless for months and trying back into retail until something good opens up near me.
I'm in healthcare so it's a special level of Hell I unwisely chose to get educated in, hoping to move into a state job in the next couple months.
Boomers really don't understand
it do be like that
the world used to work by the rules that saying in the same company a long time was the thing good for your career. Which was probably better for everyone as it was less disruptive.
Recently corporate culture has changed when they decided they don't want to reward loyalty anymore on the assumption that loyal people don't need incentives to stay
as my dad says anyone loyal to their company these days is just a mug
That shit sadly only works with pensions and pensions only exist for government jobs and the few rare jobs still protected with good unions
what I am saying is that decades ago it actually used to work with all companies. The companies just decided to stop rewarding that behaviour because they decided they don't want to
That's why boomers often still think in those terms because for them it was true
Oh definitely, I think a lot of that was in fact due to labor unions still having power and being a threat. Now businesses now they can treat workers like shit cuss option B is starving to death.
Boomers love to exist in a ahistorical state not realizing what existed that allowed them to make money and have job security.
I think the best way to get them to pipe down about all the 'loyalty' stuff is to present it as a move where you do intend to stick around at the next job (esp that state one, pension @5 years sounds dope)- I've job hopped a bit and saying, "I realized that job wasn't for me long-term so I moved on" is totally acceptable to interviewers.
Can confirm. Ol' papa garf is one of the more well-meaning breeds of and after leaving my last job, even he said "don't beat yourself up, sometimes a job ain't for you. It happens."
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