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This happened quickly…Lemmy is now the second biggest platform next to mastodon!?!

https://fedidb.org/software

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Hope this also feeds the growth of Mastodon as well. We need good FOSS alternatives to these corporate controlled social networks.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago (8 children)

I might try Mastodon now that I found and fell in love with Lemmy, are there any good clients for Android?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago

Personally I like Tusky.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

I’m on iOS so I can’t say 100% but ivory is really well designed, I’m pretty sure that’s what the Apollo dev said he likes to use so I tried it and it’s good. Personally I’ve been using elk as a web app and it’s been my favourite so far. I don’t think there’s an app for it at the moment, just a web app, but I could be wrong

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

I really like Fedilab. It's free on FDroid!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

@kratoz29 @frozengriever
It's funny to read this from Mastodon. Activity Pub / The Fediverse is weird.
I'm actually just using my browser (Brave) and it's been a fine experience so far.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Moshidon is pretty good so far

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

I really like Fedilab. It's free on FDroid!

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 years ago

Usualy being a very late adopter (buy stuff last, accept trends last, switch to norms late), I'm very happy I shutdown and deleted everything from my reddit account among the first, when spez bullcrap started, and went elsewhere, I joined squabbles, kbin and lemmy. But I'm here, I like the community, adoption and migration, and seeing the numbers tells me I'm not alone. Which is good.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Some small instances are seeing sudden increases in numbers of registered users (4k to 5k new users) but not an equivalent growth in activity, my guess is someone is creating accounts on instances without captcha enabled for account registration. Most of the top 10 fastest growing instances shown here fit that criteria.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

@Odo Interesting. Lemmy is somewhat strict in its definition of "active user". You must post to be "active", so all lurkers aren't counted.

I'm not even sure commenting counts toward being "active", though I'd guess it does.

So user growth without growth in "active users", especially on smaller servers, is plausible.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I guess that's possible. The instances I mentioned look like this:

https://fedidb.org/network/instance/parapheum.com

2 posts, 1 comment overall.

It had 10 users two days ago and 4.6k today, not a single one of them seems to have posted or commented.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

@Odo

So going to that instance, and going to its list of federated communities (https://parapheum.com/communities/listing_type/All/page/1) shows a few sizeable ones. Also note the instance's description (see https://parapheum.com/) which is basically to distribute the server load without any commitment to any particular kind of community.

So, could be full of lurkers, or parallel accounts created to avoid server overload that will be soon dropped. So probably some bloat in these numbers, as there are for other platforms too

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Having recently given Lemmy (via the Jerboa app) & kbin (via just their web app -- since that's all there is) a test drive....

Lemmy is okay, but the app is extremely glitchy right now, throwing constant "unable to convert to JSON" errors. (I'm copying this comment before I hit submit, because I've already lost one lengthy comment due to those errors) FOLLOW-UP EDIT: I was never able to submit this comment via Jerboa, so here I am posting my comment on the website.

And Kbin is mostly just broken on phones.

The interface is completely confusing and cryptic. As far as I can tell, once you navigate off the home page, there are no links back?

And after several minutes of trying to subscribe to a "magazine", I finally figured out that the button is rendered off-screen, and you have to scroll to the right to find it.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The Sync for Reddit dev just announced that Sync for Lemmy is going to be developed. Sync for Reddit is one of the very high quality 3rd party reddit apps that will be shutdown later this month. So you've got that to look forward to.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

Yep.. I'm a long time Sync for Reddit user. A good client can go a long way to making the fediverse good. I use Mastodon a lot more than Twitter now, thanks to Megalodon & more recently, Trunks.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

Try migrating to a smaller instance if you're on a big one. The fediverse is not meant to be all in one giant instance anyways.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago

It's amazing how fast it's growing. According to Lemmy Explorer, there are nearly 900 Instances, encompassing almost 13,000 communities. The forum software could stand some improvement, like having a way to group all your communities in one place, or figuring out whether an instance is federated. I really like the decentralized aspect of it. If a corporation tries to take over and ruin the largest instance (like what's happening to Reddit), then folks can migrate over the the second-most popular instance(s) while the biggest one withers and dies.

Also, Mastodon looks like a great replacement for Twitter.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago

Awesome! There's a pretty good dispersion as well.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago

Love to see the fediverse grow. We don't deserve these devs!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Mastodon numbers are crazy when compared to the rest of the software on that list. Makes me wonder just how many are active users and/or how many search "Mastodon" after Musk bought twitter, made an account on mastodon.social and left it.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Makes me wonder just how many are active users

MAU means "monthly active users". As you can see, the ratio MAU/users is not higher for Mastodon than it is for Lemmy.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Uhh am I missing something? Linked page says Mastodon has 1 million mau, while for lemmy it says just below 40 000 mau?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

For me, Mastodon was not very user friendly. I still jump on it every now and then but I'm still not comfortable with it yet.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

@mbryson @maegul
According to the CEO of Mastodon last time I chatted with him, the software tracks log-ins, so people like me, who do not log out and in again, would be invisible. So I would say with a certain level of confidence that those are active users you are seeing. Unless he changed the code of course, but it did not seem to be high on his ToDo list.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

My bad, i created 6 user accounts until i figured out how this thing works.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

So say we all.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

Not that much of a surprise considering what's been happening with reddit

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Not sure if I should just make a post for this, but I will ask here.

Is lemmy searchable? The main appeal of reddit for me was searchability. I see a lot of different instances with different domains names.Maybe there is a meta search or something? Adding reddit to the end of a search was very convenient.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago

You can use this page, to search for communities (subreddits): https://browse.feddit.de/. You can also use https://sub.rehab/.

You can also just use the search function on your Lemmy instance (sh.itjust.works). It will also show content from other Lemmy instances.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

@iSharted

Interesting question!

Lemmy has a search facility (a magnifying glass icon, generally in the top right, or perhaps behind a menu).

And it's not bad, though rough around the edges I'd say.

It will only be specific to what your instance "can see", which is all the activity in all the communities that all its users subscribe to.

So, no "meta search". But it's an interesting idea given how it was part of Reddit's value.

No reason why one couldn't be made on top of the network though

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago (5 children)

In my opion Lemmy has more potential then mastodon.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

Well they're two completely different things, mastadon I am ideal replacement for twitter

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Why is KBin at the very bottom with almost 42k MAU? It seems like it should be second with those numbers.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

This is ordered by total users.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

The table seems to be sorted by user count which is probably a more accurate measure of popularity at the current point in time (huge changes in the last month, so anything measured "per month" probably suffers from some anomalous values depending on how you extrapolate the monthly figure from the time significantly under a month that has passed since the Reddit migration).

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I’m surprised Lemmy is currently above kbin to be honest. Only time will tell.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

@AskThinkingTim A few days ago, kbin wasn't on that list at all :) It's a huge honor for me, and I'm glad people are enjoying being here. Currently, my main goal is to prepare the infrastructure and sort out the basics. The real fun will start when migratories between platforms are established. This is the fediverse, and a lot can change here ;)

@fediverse @fediversenews @maegul

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

@ernest @fediversenews @AskThinkingTim

Yes! #kbin is super young and an upstart! Bright future!!

Are you teasing us here about migrations between platforms!?

Are you suggesting kbin<->lemmy migrations? Neither even have inter-instance migrations, right?

Or, kbin<>masto, microblogs platforms?!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

@maegul Currently, it's a song of the future, but nothing limits us here. Only imagination ;) The only thing that matters to me is that if it does come to fruition, migrations should be possible in both directions.

@fediverse @fediversenews @AskThinkingTim

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago

It's been around much longer.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

@AskThinkingTim I don't agree with the opinions of Lemmy devs, and I also find kbin more feature rich. But kbin is more in development than Lemmy (which has been for longer around) and started with more servers already. They basically managed decentralization better so far, and more servers started after the reddit migration.

That's not to say I am not subscribed to Kbin magazines, nor do I think that kbin has no chance. On the contrary. I just tried to explain the current situation 😁

@maegul

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Our baby grows up so quickly, it's wonderful to see!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

@maegul @fediverse @fediversenews Wow, that's some rapid growth! 🚀 Looks like the #Fediverse is on fire. 🔥 Just shows how much we all crave more control over our digital lives. Kudos to @dessalines and @nutomic and the whole Lemmy team, from underdogs to top dogs in no time! 🐕 #Decentralization #OnlineAutonomy @fediverse @fediversenews

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

@katzenberger @fediverse @fediversenews

Yea, except I’ve heard that there’s something up with their MAU numbers. Also definition of MAU can vary from platform to platform, so it’s a tricky metric.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

@maegul

Sources for "something up"? I'd be interested to look into this.

@fediverse @fediversenews

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