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Of course, I say this as a diaspora Asian of sorts.

Noizumi is half-Japanese, and she found herself thinking, “Why am I so excited that my daughter has blue eyes? What’s the big deal about that? And why am I so excited that I have a baby who looks more white?”

This is the kind of statement that would get a white celebrity cancelled for saying it, but apparently it's just a fun tidbit for Netflix.

In their early creative conversations that would eventually span 15 years, they started spinning a tale about how “back in the Edo period starting in 17th-century Japan, it would’ve been illegal to be white.

Wtf based Edo period.

CW: RapeAccording to some of the promotional materials, the main character is a product of rape of a Japanese woman by a white man, which is a terrible and insensitive if they play it straight and a weeb fantasy if they redeem the dad at the end.

Idk if the series is as good as they say, but how the fuck did they think that publishing any of this was a good idea?

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 years ago

Every sentence is twice as racist as the last one lmfao.

These people really looked at their 3/4 white child and said "I LOVE how white it is. Also Japan Samurai!!"

[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 years ago

Ugh, they could have just made it a genuine romance and it would have been...still problematic...but at least potentially a good exploration of early colonialism and it's complexities.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Some asians talk about mixed race people like they're breeding dogs

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It's extremely off-putting. I heard one mom-to-be say that she hopes her child "wins the genetic lottery" of blonde hair and blue eyes.

Ick.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Or how people describe a child as "a good mix"

Ew

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 years ago

As a bit, I should describe my kids the way General Martok describes a good vintage of Blood Wine.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Noizumi is half-Japanese, and she found herself thinking, “Why am I so excited that my daughter has blue eyes? What’s the big deal about that? And why am I so excited that I have a baby who looks more white?”

What the actual fuck. Blue eyes can look cool, but why tie it in with race? What the fuck

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Almost all Japanese people have dark brown eyes. The only other eye colours you might see are light brown or green and those are only in pretty specific regions of the country.

Because of this blue eyes are viewed as a distinctly caucasian-ancestry thing.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 years ago

I'm guessing that being allied to the Nazis then being under American occupation gives you certain ideas about physical features and race.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 years ago (3 children)

More like White worship was a mistake. Lots of non-white people talk like this and it's gross. These types will pass up gorgeous poc for some mediocre or ugly white person just so they can have kids with lighter skin and colored eyes. The kids usually grow up with a number of mental health issues too.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yeah, the title is mostly a joke. I don't really care if someone is gonna date some mid-looking person of another race, but this kind of white worship is so fucked up for the kids and it's just not fair.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I actually do mind if they date someone mid-looking after trashing people of their own race as being ugly for having darker skin. It shows they view their partner as nothing more than a breeding mule for their white looking children. I have people like this in my family and I've lost any patience for this kind of bullshit.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

By all means dunk on the guy for being a weirdo nerd but can we not body shame people as if that has anything to do with their shitty behavior?

From the picture, they seem to be at around the same level of attractiveness and even seem to have matching brainworms so a good match altogether.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

damn imagine marrying the a.o smith guy

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

The kids usually grow up with a number of mental health issues too.

What is the intended implication of this statement? Are you trying to imply that dating someone because of the colour of their skin (instead of going for someone more fitting, regardless of their skin colour) leads to dysfunctional relationships which have negative impact on their children?

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 years ago

this is like a hollywood movie they'd make in The Man in the High Castle.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 years ago

I am a brown guy and wore colored contacts for a phase in my life. It was for myself, and yes admittedly it was an icebreaker for the ladies if nothing else.

But it ended up really creepy and sad how people only noticed me then, specifically in terms of how not-brown I looked and what my possible genetic background might be. And if I revealed that they were "fake" (in their words), some of them were really harsh about me trying to be someone I can't be.

I don't wear them anymore.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 years ago (1 children)

All I've done is read the article and watched the trailer.

I hate the animation style

I hate the music

The story sounds formulaic

I'm probably gonna skip this one.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago

the japanese metallica cover gave me a chuckle. what are they goin for here.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Noizumi is half-Japanese, and she found herself thinking, “Why am I so excited that my daughter has blue eyes? What’s the big deal about that? And why am I so excited that I have a baby who looks more white?”

pain

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 years ago (1 children)

And instead of asking herself deep introspective questions, she just went "YAY WHITE BABY!'

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 years ago

Principal Skinner: Should I reflect on my reflexive celebration of whiteness?

Principal Skinner: No, it's just great to be White.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 years ago

blue eye samurai

cringe that fucking hurt to read

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 years ago (1 children)

back in the Edo period starting in 17th-century Japan, it would’ve been illegal to be white.

Sounds like America in 2023. /s

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 years ago

NOOOOO: "Nooo, you mean le heckin' Based Japan was once WOKE!? NOOOOOOO!"

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 years ago (3 children)

what the fuck?

Also I'm fairly certain there was some part of the japanese cultural historical period that had being as un-sun-kissed pale white as possible being a desirable trait among imperial courtiers because it was a sign of not being a stinking poor peasant. I'm thinking it's from the Heian period.

And I'm gonna go out on a limb based off of the historiography I've read, it wasn't illegal to be "white" in the Edo period, it was illegal to be a gaijin bleach demon imperialist invading Japan - something that's not exclusively "uniquely Japanese", much to the Japanese ultra-nats and weeb nazis chagrin, as Korea and China generally considered the roving european bandits who called themselves "explorers" and "traders" to be barbarians to be kept away. - which means this diasporian asian's been yankeefied to the point she's obsessed with becoming european to the point of mythologizing history

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

that had being as un-sun-kissed pale white as possible being a desirable trait among imperial courtiers because it was a sign of not being a stinking poor peasant. I'm thinking it's from the Heian period.

yes but a white guy who works in the sun would also have their skin tan so it wouldn't really make any difference. East asian people don't actually have skin that looks all that darker than white people do

race is made up and arbitrary, before the opium wars the chinese were considered white. In south africa being Japanese made you legally white

it was once popular in england to call the Irish white skinned black people (and that's the nice way of putting it)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago

Noizumi is half-Japanese, and she found herself thinking, “Why am I so excited that my daughter has blue eyes? What’s the big deal about that? And why am I so excited that I have a baby who looks more white?”

Because you're a pathetic white-worshiping banana who wish you were as white on the outside as you are on the inside?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

One time I was at a party and this white guy said he "spoke chinese" and the first thing he said was the n-word (or a word that white people seem to think is the n-word). Then I watched him try and fail to hit up Asian girls the entire time. These are the type of people who date women like her. Usually the dads say some of the most racist people you'll ever meet, and are in constant delusional denial that their kids look Asian. Needless to say their children are all fucked in the head.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

My WMAF parents met in the 70s, which seems to have been before creepy white guys with Asian feishes became a thing. That might have been the only thing boomers did better. Unfortunately, I think divorced dads ruined that for them.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I have literally have never met a single non white worshipping Asian (not just east) in UK or USA that wasn't also a hardcore commie, and almost all my friends have been either East or South Asian

I've even met an ethnically Chinese commie who immigrated to China from Australia who's still white worshipping so even understanding about white supremacy isn't a guarantee they don't agree with it lmao

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

China's education system isn't racist enough towards yakubians.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

It's really not

Every Chinese person I've met has asked me why white people (and most Western Chinese) don't seem to like them

And of course why there's so many homeless people in London and San Francisco

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Meh I am enjoying it. Yeah it has some bad takes, but it makes the British evil and has pretty colors.

Edit: Lol having watched the show and read the article, yall are a bunch of psychotic reactionaries. Yeah it's from a lib perspective, because basically all media is in our liberal society, but the main themes of the show are literally racial hierarch and patriarchy are bad. It also explores the concept of beauty standards and why whiteness is the apex of that. The show is also decidedly anti imperialist from a lib perspective. The woman in question in the article is literally asking why she has an implicit bias toward whiteness and is disturbed that she feels that way about her own kid. The show literally has the villan say that the fact that Edo is burning down is because whiteness is equivalent to violence and imperialism, because all white people can do is violence.