Prog Rock: yeah this is the greatest song I've ever made, now to add 1 hour and 22 minutes to it.
this post was submitted on 23 Oct 2023
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“Let’s add some transitions in, to the point that different parts of the song are almost unrecognisable as the same tune and may as well be different tracks entirely.”
Would apply the same logic to classical music?
Yeah, fuck those guys.
If it sounds different enough then make it a separate track on the album 😤
I'll call Beethoven and Mozart to let them know.
Don't be ridiculous, you can't call Beethoven. He's deaf.
Yeah Beethoven only accepts video calls or texts
Prog rock got it right. Master of Puppets is only 8 minutes long, we can't afford to make such a mistake again. Never make a song that short, and eventually we'll get a 1 hour Master of Puppets!
"You are witnesses at the new birth of Spinal Tap mark 2! I hope you enjoy our new direction..."
Well, thing is, it's not easy to expand on a song. You can't just reuse the same melody+rhythm without changing anything about it or it'll likely be boring.
And especially with your darlings, it can be tricky as an artist to make such changes, because you might feel like any such change makes it less perfect.
Around the world, around the world, around the world, around the world
That whole soundtrack is amazing
Yes but this track is specifically 1:23 minutes
Joanna Newsom be like "yeah this is the best song ever made let's make it 4 songs in one and make it 17 minutes long"
This shit stays in my driving playlist. Fuck a passenger if it comes on, I ain't skipping it.
Some artists can condense a variety of concepts into three or four minutes, while others can make a ninety minute song about smoking dope in the desert and it's just as compelling.
One of my favorite songs ever is this 16m21s masterpiece by Artcell. It sounds like 4 separate tracks with connected lyrics and smooth transitions.
Gonna save dis and listen in like two months when I randomly stumble across the comment again after I inevitably forget about it
There's an 11-12m long Alestorm song that slaps from beginning to end, Sunset On The Golden Age I believe it's called.
Another good long song would be Save Me by Avenged Sevenfold. I urge anyone into metal to give both a shot.
Oh boy, if you want some long metal songs... Between The Buried And Me, Dream Theater, Haken, and Tool are the bands to check out.
Between The Buried And Me - White Walls (14+ min)
BTBAM - Silent Flight Parliament (15:09)
BTBAM - Augment of Rebirth (10:19)
BTBAM - Swim To The Moon (17:53)
Dream Theater - Scene Four: Beyond This Life (11:22)
Dream Theater - Scene Six: Home (12:53)
Dream Theater - Octavarium (24:00)
Dream Theater - The Shattered Fortress (12:49)
Dream Theater - Breaking All Illusions (12:26)
Haken - Nocturnal Conspiracy (13:09)
Haken - Elephants Never Forget (11:07)
And that's just limiting to songs that are over 10 minutes... TesseracT and Periphery also have a bunch of longer songs.
Thank you sir! o7
I shall add these to my list.
Grindcore has entered the chat
Yakety Yak. The Coasters. 1958 Spark Records. One minute and fifty seconds of sublime, in-your-face, balls-out nonsense. Everything rock and roll was meant to be.
Tristan Egolf, Skirt and the Fiddle
Does not apply to Beethoven
they have to compress the quality into that shorter time
Chips and dip by Sam Greenfield
Gatsbys American Dream has a song called Meet me at the Tavern in Browerstone . Absolute masterpiece in every way except that it ends in under 30 seconds and leaves you with a deceptive ending that has you craving more.
Best example I can give of this. The whole album Volcano is a masterpiece, despite being 33m and change. Their entire catalogue is a great listen and you can do it in a two-hour car ride. Definitely left me wanting more over a decade ago.
Cries in "I can't turn you loose"
Also Song 2
So true though. Transformer by Gnarles Barkley comes to mind for me. Banger of a track but I wish it were longer, told more of the story.
Crazy is such a good song, I'll have to check out Transformer
Bach to the Phuture by Savant
Short songs are better anyway. I just need enough time to start skanking.
People with no taste settle around the 3-5 minute mark 😅