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This would be appropriate reparations for the Holocaust, would give Palestinians back their land, and would provide a Jewish state that would be safe (right?) amidst European countries who are not anti-Semitic (right?).
So what do you think Germany, the EU, and the USA will say?
Lmao I've been saying this for years to Hasbara trolls when they accuse me of not supporting a Two-State Solution and the point of it is that they absolutely know that any objections they have to a German Repartition Two-State Solution is going to be met with a "So why is it okay for you to do that to Palestine then?" and they absolutely know it.
I've never deployed this argument with them and had them reply because they know they can't come back at it and, essentially, because the Zionist project depends upon the extermination of Palestinians and they don't want to openly admit it.
I even mentioned this in Socialism For All's recent stream which got mentioned by them. It was funny to hear someone else say it out loud.
You can't do that to Germany, white people live there!
the most oppressed minority 😔 even the sun wants them dead
Actually, just make it out of the former DDR since they're all voting for AFD now anyway
You see it in a lot of Europe. The working class poor people who used to be left have been won over by racist propoganda.
https://redsails.org/masses-elites-and-rebels/
In short: Westerners aren’t helpless innocents whose minds are injected with atrocity propaganda, science fiction-style; they’re generally smug bourgeois proletarians who intelligently seek out as much racist propaganda as they can get their hands on. This is because it fundamentally makes them feel better about who they are and how they live.
Westerners are willingly complicit in crimes because they instinctively and correctly understand that they benefit as a class (as a global bourgeois proletariat) from the exploitation enabled by their military and their propaganda
We’re not as stupid as we’re made out to be. This means that we can be reasoned with, that there is a way out.
Remember this, kids...
Yup, you tell the average American that their military is in the middle east for oil, if they acknowledge that fact, their response is usually going to be: good I want my gas to be cheap.
I'd say there are significant groups who will answer all of the below:
israeli settler colonialism is a furnace and its main fuel is european anti semitism: the idea that jews cannot possibly live in europe, or be european. this is used by the settle colonists to justify their white supremacist ideal to settle palestine and commit genocide there. some of the most opportunistic white supremacism I've ever seen. masquerades as progressive while making common cause with the anti semites. of course reparations from a european country to the jewish people will never be pursued by israeli settlers because it's entirely contrary to their purposes.
okay this map cannot be even close to right
Israel is just under 21 thousand square kilometers. Germany is just under 350 thousand square kilometers. Germany is almost 17 times bigger than Israel.
Outrageous claims! To insinuate someone would just go on the Internet and tell lies!?
*not to scale
Yea I mean I could be wrong but I'm pretty sure Jewish people wouldn't want to live in Germany and it's probably a bad idea regardless
It wouldn't be Germany any more and any Germans still trespassing there should just go home to Germany or Belgium or wherever.
pretty sure Jewish people wouldn't want to live in Germany
If my neighbor tries to kill me and my family, most systems of justice would give me restitution from my neighbor and those who helped him. Doesn't matter how much I want restitution from the guy across town who had nothing to do with the crime, he shouldn't suffer for a crime he didn't commit.
and those who helped him.
Does this mean Israel should be relocated to Japan?
Imperial Japan was actually weirdly nice to Jewish people despite being in the Axis. They kinda looked at Nazi ideology and concluded that if Jews did control the banks and media, Japan should get them on side.
But hey, let's compromise and just put New Israel in the Baltic States and Banderite Ukraine.
i heard that on chapo but i don't think it's reliable or true, considering there is also anti-Semitism in Japan.
the real sakhalin solution
Berlin has a large Israeli community and a lot of Jewish people from former USSR member states moved to Germany after the fall as well. Our Jewish community isn't as big as that in the US, but it is there. I agree it would have been a problematic idea immediately after WW2, tho, can't see many Jewish people wanting to move to Germany back then.
all palestinian violence against israel is self-defense.
They had their chance to do it right by creating a Jewish state in East Prussia (instead of forming Kaliningrad Oblast). Now that ship has sailed they'll have to give up the Rhine instead.
A little unironically a great idea, just like 70 years too late.
this map gives a pretty false impression. the lower half is the negev, it's practically empty. so you wouldnt need half of germany for this new state of israel.
the other false impression is that Israel is anywhere near this big.
Germany is over 16 times larger in extent than Israel
oops lol, yeah, the scale is way off. they could've made an israel out of like meckleburg-vorpommern...
We should just give them New York, half the population of Isn'treal comes from there anyway.
Ayyy, I'm bombin civilians ova heah!
Please no, we don't want them
Manhatten can hardly get worse, they and the NYU students can eat each other alive.
The NYPD is the last group of people on earth who should be given white phosphorous.
That's the strangest map of Germany I've ever seen. Anhalt has absorbed all of Saxony-Anhalt? Saxony, Bavaria and Lower Saxony are in English, but the rest aren't, and the German name of Lower Saxony is also there, but with an extra "n"? And all the islands are missing?
germany?
you mean South Rügen?
I just found it on a google search. Haha oops
Well if we do this 45 years after that Israel will celebrate a day of unity as the government in the east ceases to exist and the west takes over. Suddenly the largest member in the EU will be Israel. So I think the cons outweigh the pros in this one.
This is unironically what I believe.
cute, but maybe forcible (re)relocation is bad maybe.
Usually but we're talking about the germans here to be fair
I don't think we're talking about relocating the germans here to be fair
Kicking settlers out isn't bad.
It doesn’t have to be forcible, but anyone who stays in Palestine has to agree to live in a democracy where everyone has the same rights. The ones who need a jewish majority state can go to the new Israel in Germany! Boom problem solved!
I frankly do not want Israel on my border. They seem to have a habit of colonization.
Can we get them to take the eastern side? I travel through the west several times a year.
The "issue" after WW2 was that most European jews didn't not want to live in/near the country that genocided them, also what connections do Moroccan, Iranian, Russian or Spanish jews have with Germany that warrants a state "special" for them?
Russian
russian and central european jewish people are the same group, unless you count small groups from the caucauses or central asia as 'russian'. but a yiddish/ashkenazi state carved out of germany needn't prioritize the rest of the diaspora,
the actual zionist state got jews who'd been across the middle east that were in expelled in protest over israel's creation, and leverages any antisemitism anywhere to drum up support/manpower for the colonial project. fictive yiddish state of germany couldn't even be called colonialism, just reparations---no international stressors, no need to encourage mass migration to fill out the regiments and expropriated land