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Hello, how are you guys?

As the title says, what search Ingine are you currently using? I used DuckDuckGo for years, and just recently switched to Brave.

Also, what do you think about the Brave Browser? I have been using FireFox since forever.

Thank you for reading.

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[–] [email protected] 50 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Personally I am not a fan of brave. Between running their own crypto currency, inserting affiliate links to pages and an advert revenue share. It seems like they are trying to be a middleman to your web experience.

I have been a Firefox user since 2004ish and mainly runAdnausem and consent-o-matic to keep my web experience as clean as possible.

It is always funny to look into my Adnausem ad vault to see what people are trying to advertise to me.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 2 years ago

Brave is a series scammer and every few days somebody seems to be posting about it on Lemmy. It's really looking like an ad campaign.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Ad Nauseum is absolutely amazing. Google even admits that by banning it from Chrome.

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Using privacy and Brave in the same sentence is a quite a leap.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

I just realized it 😂

[–] eya 26 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Brave is an ad company. Don't use Brave.

[–] eya 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

For the record, I use SearXNG with Librewolf

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I am so curious about LibreWolf. I am gonna try it soon on my daily laptop (Linux of course 😂).

[–] eya 1 points 2 years ago

I've been using it for a long time, I haven't run into any issues with it.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 years ago (4 children)

I will use Firefox until the day it completely stops existing. You can pry it from my cold, dead hands. In regards to search engines, I'm using Startpage these days. I am actively looking around for something else that is free as in beer, useful, and reliable. I want to set and forget it, not constantly manage it because the instance I use is down or something.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

I'll check that out thanks.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 years ago (2 children)

@Sterben tho this post might not be doing so but still dont get why people like to compare and pick only 1 search engine to use forever

Just use all of them. Try all. Everyone has unique needs

Each company has differences in indexing. Tho the duck is Bing based, it chose to block "russian propaganda". For something as vast as the net, using 1 engine is like using only 1 eye to see the world

For a truly open perspective, use multiple! Only for convenience's of daily searches, maybe pick one

[–] eya 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Just use all of them.

so what you're saying is use SearXNG

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

@eya Kind of. But all engines have their own unique features too

Google/Startpage has quick snippets

Brave has Toggles. Duckduckgo has bangs

Baidu/Yandex/Naver has immense localisation

Bing has OpenAI

Under competition, companies will innovate. Thats what this is. Forcing Google to innovate

For that we've to support them all. meta engines are good for what they are. But it cant have those extra features. Search isnt only about the results. Like how YouTube isnt *just* about the video

[–] eya 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Google doesn't need to innovate when they have almost a 65% market share. They could implement malware into the browser and people would still use it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

@eya exactly but they werent always like that.

Google's like Microsoft now. The very company they destroyed both in so many key markets. They were innovative.

Its the 97% search share and 70% Browser share thats the problem.

How Google, an AI company for over a decade, got so shock by newcomer OpenAI? Out of box thinking. What google itself used to be about

Thats what we need. Competition. Not anti trust trials or regulations. But prodcuts like chatgpt & Brave to make big companies innovate

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago

I'm using metager.org, because I won't trust a closed-source service like DDG or profit-driven company like Brave to not censor their search results.

[–] Devjavu 6 points 2 years ago

I'd recommend a searxng instance.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago (3 children)

"Yes, a security researcher revealed this week that even DuckDuckGo, which markets itself as "the internet privacy company," made an exception for its business partner Microsoft to its browser's blocking of some advertising trackers on websites, sparking accusations of betraying its purported privacy ethos."

No offense but I am not sure why people trust duckduckgo or brave. Brave for the obvious concerns with controversy surrounding their CEO. And duckduckgo for essentially being diet bing.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

And the Duck also has a sketchy CEO

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (6 children)

Brave is not a bad browser, but it uses Chromium under the hood. That is bad, because it supports Google's monopoly on browser rendering engines. You can either stick to Firefox, or check out LibreWolf. It's Firefox but with uBlock Origin preinstalled and all the privacy features already enabled and configured.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I must give props to Brave Search for its AI summarizer, which suprisingly does a pretty good job at using high quality sources from its index to give you a brief synopsis of the query.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

True, I honestly like that too.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago

I use all of them, at once, with searx.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Used Brave for a bit during August and liked it (mainly their Discussions feature) but stopped using it since I always liked Startpage. I see a few mentions of Mojeek here, so I'll give it a shot

Edit: Spelling correction (shot from shit kekw)

Edit II: Mojeek's results are bad

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

We're always on the lookout for feedback so if you use us again or are willing to send in the searches then it really helps us improve, the Eval Page is also worth mentioning for sending us these in a more interactive way. There's a new testing algo up there currently.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

DDG uses bing and they filter results based on their biased opinion. Just give me results let me care about the rest! Brave has a limited index, plus not a huge fan of their crypto scam. StartPage gets results from Google and seems better than the above two. But Google itself filters results so not great. tbh, to get unfiltered great results try Yandex, they do have good index and seem no or less filtering. It would be great if SearX would provide a wrapper around Yandex, but AFAIK Yandex blocks bots and non-human interactions and it is hard to add SearX support. Kagi - I don't want an extra subscription.

For now, I think SearX/Whooper instances are good enough

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'd never get into the Brave ecosystem. Have been trialing Kagi, it's been doing on par with Google thus far but I haven't trialed it hard.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

I use Brave Search and Firefox. But sometimes i have to use Chromium for compatibility issues although it is so rare.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

Just curiosity to be honest. But I see that there aren't many diversities between the DDG and Brave, so I may as well get back to DDG.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

I gave brave search 2 goes over some years apart. everytime I get a captcha I said f u brave. duckduck not a single captcha.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'm using presearch.com these days and I'm rather pleased with that

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

Thanks, I am gonna try it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I trust more the DDG search ingini, brave kinda sucks ass.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Same here, I mostly use brave search with occasional !ecos. Although, both companies have made questionable stuff in their browsers (ddg -- not blocking m$ trackers, brave -- similar stuff with trackers, don't remember which, plus the whole affiliate link debacle).

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

In the end, the best thing is to use Firefox with Ads / Trackers Blocker.

Brave seems alright as a search Ingine, but its CEO looks fishy so I am not sure if I am gonna keep using it.

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