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What's an obscure, fringe, or specific kind of capital-G G!mer that you've come across and know unpleasantly well? (hexbear.net)

submitted 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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I don't just mean Heated G!mer Words. heated-gamer-moment Those are a given. I mean a specific community with its own quirks, idioms, or other ways of being terrible.

Mine comes from FFXIV. @[email protected] can probably back me up on this one: diehard genocide enjoying 2.x Gaius Van Baelsar stans.

The character was retconned a little especially after he was officially said to have survived the 2.0 finale, and had been up to some very sus shit in the background like raising child soldiers that had extremely sus feelings written into the side story narratives about their senpai libertarian-alert , but the original A Realm Reborn Gaius had an entire cryptofascist fan following that was really into his "The Garleans are good actually and they are enlightened atheist luminaries trying to kill all the superstitious beast tribe barbarians in the name of LE SCIENCE and are SAVING THE WORLD against the evil Primals" takes.

Even when later expansions revealed (obvious spoiler alert)

spoiler

that the Garlean genocide campaign against the "beast tribes" was deliberately engineered to encourage more Primal summoning as both a casus belli tactic to invade other nations and also as a means to further the interests of the Primal-summoning Ascians that founded and effectively ruled the Garlean Empire all along, making all the genocide enjoyers look very fucking ignorant after that reveal,

the diehards continued to stan for Gaius, even if there were less of them in Ul'dah chat than there used to be, fortunately. The most Jokerfying experience there was mentioning the above plot points to a "beast tribe" genocide enjoyer in chat and being told "the story got stupid after a while so I stopped caring, lol." galaxy-brain

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Anti-piracy nerds. Nintendo doesn't need your fuckin' money and I will openly tell you to pirate my own shit if you can't afford it.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 years ago (2 children)

A whole lot of anti-piracy nerds are Nintendo stans and it's fucking weird because Nintendo's ahead of the curve when it comes to greedy bullshit. Good luck legally playing a nostalgia title without getting an overpriced bundle with Ice Climbers in it. Again. capitalist-laugh

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago

ngl I'm still a little salty that they took the NES consoles out of animal crossing after the first game

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Eh, Nintendo still does greedy bullshit and I say that as someone that often plays their games.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I think you're agreeing. Nintendo's legal department is famously a total bucket of assholes.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yeah, that's what I meant by "ahead of the curve." I mean worse.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago

OOOOHHHHH

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago

True, true.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 years ago (2 children)

War Thunder military documents leaker is my favorite subtype of Gamer.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 years ago (1 children)

That is actually cool and good, though. Off topic! angery

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago

tails-trolled

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago

reset the counter

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 years ago (4 children)

I don't personally know anyone who is into it, but seeing people online who are super super into Hearts of Iron 4 make me uncomfortable for reasons I don't know how to articulate.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I don't personally know anyone who is into it, but seeing people online who are super super into Hearts of Iron 4 make me uncomfortable for reasons I don't know how to articulate.

I don't think Hexbear is entirely safe for criticizing that fandom, either. yea

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Not throwing shade at any comrades here, I'm thinking more of the sorts of people who go on multi-tweet tirades about its mechanics and factions and stuff. Usually, they come off as pretty outright fashy.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago

yea

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

every post on HOI4 forums seems to be like "i played as the nazis and did genocide (not a nazi btw)"

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago

I dunno if it was actually HOI4, but I remember a post just like a day or two ago in the dunk tank that was....well, quite literally what you said.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago

Yeah...

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

My bro is an HOI4 stan and an alt-right person as well.

Coincidence? I think not.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Pretty high chance your bro is into up-yours-woke-moralists

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

He also considers himself a "classical liberal."

Go on, tell me where he got that one from.

Guess. Just guess.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

kubrick-stare

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Actually, no, worse (imho).

Sargon of Akkad.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Carl of Swindon is one of the most laughably "centrist" cryptofascists out there. I'm surprised by the sheer banality of that choice. surprised-pika

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

I hate the bastard lol

But yeah, he's the one that always posed a "liberal" or "classical liberal." Not sure about now though haha

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago

Oh God yes...

yea

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago

Y E S

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I mostly play it to make the Nazis lose earlier and harder than they did IRL

Berlin by '43 or bust

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago

I play it for Kaiserreich's Syndie world revolution.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

Lots of 20 year old HOI4 stans giving money to the IWW every month but never showing up to a meeting.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Honestly?

Telltale fans because they defend games that legitimately suck (okay, fine, this is more of an opinion and I don't really "revile them" per se) to the point where you'd think they were better than they were, especially after the first part of Telltale's The Walking Dead (which is the only "good story" of theirs, but still barely had any alternative paths or branching decisions).

Though the recent The Expanse video game seems interesting and seems to have actual gameplay so that's neat. Maybe the decisions will actually matter... Oh yeah, and I think there's a recent Star Trek one as well.

Oh yeah, and Dark Souls fans just for the "git gud" meme alone.

Otherwise, I can't think of anyone specific if you want that.

I'll say this: the Tali fandom from Mass Effect on the old BSN forums were, other, pretty crazy (and it's not like I hate Tali given that I barely played the Mass Effect trilogy). But yeah, they had a... reputation. You said one bad thing about Tali and it was your neck on the line, or that's how it felt like, and the witch-hunt seemed to carry to other parts of the forum...

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'll say this: the Tali fandom from Mass Effect on the old BSN forums were, other, pretty crazy (and it's not like I hate Tali given that I barely played the Mass Effect trilogy). But yeah, they had a... reputation. You said one bad thing about Tali and it was your neck on the line, or that's how it felt like, and the witch-hunt seemed to carry to other parts of the forum...

It's not quite freeze-gamer but that kind of reminds me of the really obnoxious side of the Doctor Who fandom that can not shut the fuck up about "who is best companion" and rate them in increasingly horny or shippy ways on tier lists and get downright feral if their thirsty shit is called out.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yeah, it's not just g*mers that do it, but yeah, and I'll just say that some gaming fandoms are worse than others.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

One of the most obnoxious uses of false equivalency on the internet is the "every fandom has good and bad people in it therefore all fandoms are equally good and bad, you can't criticize specific fandom" takes.

I don't think stamp collectors have an equal chance of Heated G!mer Moments as freeze-gamer do, for example.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yeah, I agree.

Like, once upon a time, the Sonic fandom was indeed pretty toxic, though it's gotten better over time.

There are differences... and then there are degrees as well.

Let's not act like we're not seeing "quality" in action.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

"Historically Accurate" us-foreign-policy slashy stabby choppy medieval killyman game fandoms tend to be a lot more toxic than other game fandoms. Just the chat/lobby text alone is often repulsive enough for me to not stick around.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

You know what's "historically accurate" as well?

HOI4 fans being... problematic and not just in the typical "toxic" way but in the fascistic way too, tbh... (but still toxic as well!)

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

People who talk about "must-pulls" in gacha games, especially when you can easily clear all content in the game without the so-called "must-pulls".

I'm sure the companies are happy a portion of the playerbase is doing their job for them by amplifying the FOMO and making players who don't know better feel pressured to pull for units they potentially don't even want.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Genshin Impact apologists are glaring examples of that. They really can't come up with bearable justifications for all the greed so it becomes "what's the most fun way to be turned upside down and shaken for money" discussions.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

That's the most egregious example I can think of. It has a very easy endgame you can beat with a million teams, but also a ton of players telling you how you need x character or you're coping.

As if the fomo already inherent in gachas isn't bad enough without players making up stuff like this.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago

Fortnite's fandom's bullying of "defaults" is even worse but it's sort of the background noise of freeze-gamer culture.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Griefers. If you see two people playing Chess in the park, walk up to them, and flip the table, you'd rightfully be called an asshole, but somehow doing the equivalent online is supposed to be okay.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago

ITS JUST A JOKE BROOOOOOOOOOO WHY ARE YOU BEING A (ableistic slur) BROOOOOOOOOOO smuglord

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago

The Total War "historically accurate" purists fucking suck.

Not only will they just refuse to admit they don't want to see women and brown people in their games, but their dumbass opinions about how gameplay should also be historically accurate are running their games into the ground

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I hate the ”MW2 lobbies were so much worse” argument so much. One of the reasons some of us never played those games was not wanting to hear some g*mer shouting slurs, and even the some of the ones who tolerated that shit actually grew up. If you haven't, maybe go play something other than like the only game in existence that actually punishes you for abusive language, it doesn't make the community ”soft” for wanting others to follow the rules.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I hate the ”MW2 lobbies were so much worse” argument so much. One of the reasons some of us never played those games was not wanting to hear some g*mer shouting slurs, and even the some of the ones who tolerated that shit actually grew up. If you haven't, maybe go play something other than like the only game in existence that actually punishes you for abusive language, it doesn't make the community ”soft” for wanting others to follow the rules.

Without exception, people I've had to deal with that pulled the "MW2 was worse" internet tough guy card gave me the impression that they were that worse part to begin with.