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Is it okay to use old.reddit.com or is using it still in support of spez?

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 years ago

It's just another frontend for normal reddit. Literally the same as using reddit.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 years ago (1 children)

No.

Reddit is also anonymous

Why would you use a site that lies to you?

[–] [email protected] -5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Using the old one would be supporting spez? I need more access to learning resources and experiences; which is what I used to use "read it" for but have since been browsing the limited resources on the lemmy instances. Anyway to figure out if the answers to a certain question on one instance is in another instance?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Using reddit is using reddit, regardless of how you access it.

But you probably shouldn't worry too much - the fact remains that there's a ton of old, useful content that can be only found on reddit, so sometimes you don't really have a choice.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 years ago (2 children)

nobody is watching what youre doing and all this lemmy shit is theatrics just live your life how you want to live it restrictions are for people that think they have a bigger purpose. nobody has a bigger purpose.

unless of course that restriction is a healthy dietary and physical change in lifestyle. that is a good purpose but everyone should be doing that.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 years ago

No. Engagement metrics feed into the IPO valuation and I won’t willing give u/spez the sweat off my nethers. Don’t even go there.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 years ago

You use whatever you want to use. Come to your own conclusions, don't ask other people to tell you what to do.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Restricting your access to the site is a form of individual consumer activism, and I don't think that ever really makes a difference.

The thing that will kill reddit is their enshittification leading to an exodus of content creators and the subsequent exodus of casual users.

The tiny influx of traffic you give them when you look something up occasionally isn't going to make any difference. I visit it when it has answers, but it's about 1000th of my previous activity and I no longer submit anything.

You may as well lower hay bales off the boat deck of the Lusitania. Yes it will reduce its weight but it's still been hit by a torpedo. It's going down; it's inevitable; don't stress about it.

I hope all the useful posts will be archived somewhere and accessible later. That's perhaps the best outcome we can hope for.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Both thinking and communicating that individual actions are futile is counterproductive. Close to zero is still non-zero. Be the change you want to see.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I disagree. I think that thinking and communicating that individual consumptive action is effective is harmful. I highlighted "consumptive" because it is a key term that you omitted.

The fossil fuel industry pioneered it as their "carbon footprint" propaganda in a deliberate attempt to distract our attention away from their responsibility and away from collective action against them. They want to individualise our efforts so we won't unite against them, and this idea was effective in achieving that.

The collective action alternative to an absolute boycot of reddit is... right here. It's lemmy. I'm not there on reddit making contributions and comments and voting, I'm here, and I'm also not making links to reddit. If I had to I'd either copy the relevant info or link to an archive. Together we are collectively building the alternative. It is not the same thing as setting a complete "don't visit reddit" embargo. Visiting reddit once or twice a week because it has answers to technical problems that I can't find elsewhere is my individual consumptive action, and it isn't a blip on that.

If you're on the deck of the Lusitania rearranging chairs, you're not spending the limited time you have in finding a way off the ship. Your actions didn't sink the ship and they won't save it. It's not almost nothing, it is less than nothing because energy spent on it is wasted energy.

Now I'm interested in why you think individualised action is so important - but remember I am highlighting the concept of individualised action to separate it from collective action. I just wrote a lot of words on what I think is the theoretical basis of this kind of thing but I decided to spare you from it unless you asked.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago
[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Look, if you are looking to use reddit without supporting it, your best bet is to:

-1 Browse with ad blockers so they get no revenue from you.

-2 Never post anything. A post is free content for them. If you have to ask a question, delete the post afterwards.

-3 Never comment on anything. Again, that's free content for Reddit. If you have to comment, delete it after a few days.

-4 Never up/down vote anything, or report anything. Reddit wants you to curate their content for free, fuck that!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

They still serve ads on old Reddit, so you're still giving them money and metrics. Really depends on why you left Reddit in the first place

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

What if you run an adblocker and never see ads? Then to me the only way you are contributing to Reddit income rather than costing them money is by commenting and voting.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago

Even just being on the website boosts their monthly active users number which they can use to convince advertisers to buy ad space.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

This depends on how you define "support". Reddit plans IPO, having more active users helps with this. If you post there or answer other people you contribute to Reddit value as well.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

Its days are numbered anyway.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I do not support providing any more traffic to Reddit (which is why I blowed out my 7 years old account last week) - but there was a time during mid-July when I was still keen on giving Reddit a last chance, and I was exclusively using old reddit with "Old Lander" user script via Tampermonkey, which made it a terrific interface for mobiles.

You might give it a try

https://github.com/OctoNezd/oldlander

But in the end fuck spez, and I am a lot more peaceful now after deleting my Fuggit account.

PS : I did not write Old Lander script, I just found it to be awesome while I was using it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

The app sink it for Reddit https://apps.apple.com/at/app/sink-it-for-reddit/id6449873635 is excellent.

I use the official Reddit app to keep up with porn. I also interact, upvote, downvote, comment on these. But nothing else.