Anytime I hear "ax the tax" I know it's removing a tax that benefits society and replacing it with a detriment to society. Without fail
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You buy a computer, pay for it, and then you still need to pay for power and internet?
Personally as someone who drives, I prefer roads that I donβt need a lifted 4x4 to traverse. Iβd say these people must think the asphalt just grows there naturally, but really they donβt actually think at all.
Just one less tax broπ
I promise bro just one less tax and it'll fix everything π₯Ί
You got married but you have to be nice to your wife to get a blowjob? If I'm elected governor, everyone's wives will have to give them a blowjob whenever they want, no questions asked.
Some countries don't have a car tax. However their roads are mostly unpaved dirt paths without signs, bridges or road maintenance, and you can't go faster than 40kmh without ruining your car.
Sounds like good resolution to US car-centric infrastruture :D
Ah yes. The magical self maintaining roads.
On the contrary, cars are way too subsidized! We should be taxing these vehicles to appropriately reflect their social cost.
Especially gas, by removing subsidies.
When people complain about how expensive gasoline is, I usually suggest it be over $20/gallon to actually fund road maintenance, and clean up its environmental damage. Nobody's agreed with me yet.
It's $8 a gallon in sweden and it's still subsidized
Unless there are some other drastic changes in funding, and a slow ramp up to this tax, youβd absolutely destroy the working class people working the lower wage jobs. Poorer people tend to not have any remote work, and would most likely be driving an older, less fuel efficient and non-electric car.
All of that is true.
So of course it would have to be phased in over at least a few years. That's the way these things are always done anyway.
I agree with you!
Thank you. I'd expect it here.
But in the real world I suddenly grow a second head on my shoulders.
In Europe we pay like $6-8 per gallon, some countries may be paying even more.
We just need to build trains everywhere. That will solve all of our problems in this category.
Also trucks... One reason car taxes have increased a lot in recent years where I live is trucking lobbies lobbying government to reduced road taxes on trucks and increase weight limits on trucks.
She's also a Republican in all the worst kind of ways. Looking at her Wikipedia page just... Yikes.
When you get into main cities, public transportation and walking becomes easier and it makes sense to tax drivers more.
I've been working in the backwoods/suburbs for over 15 years now and in the US, you're fucked. There is no way to get/keep a job without a car because there are no bike lanes, no sidewalks, and good luck trying to find a taxi/Uber. Your forced to take on the emissions testing, loans for junk cars because we can't afford new cars. A 15 minute drive is 2 hours on foot because there are no sidewalks, you have to cut through yards, which is "trespassing" and you could get shot, especially in the backwoods areas.
They basically make it illegal to NOT have a car. And that's a win for them because then they can tax the fuck out of you for owning one
It's extra shitty because even with how expensive they are to own, cars (and the infrastructure for them) are STILL heavily subsidized.
It's just a nonsense, inefficient system all around...
I grew up in Virginia. When I was in the 3rd grade, Jim Gilmore won on a "no car tax" campaign in 1998. Funny how we still have car tax hmm...
You don't have to pay taxes on your car if you don't drive it on public roads.
You Winsome, you Losesome.
I agree it's pretty stupid to pay a tax just for owning something. Let's change it so they pay it every time they use it. Much more fair.
You mean a tax on gas?
More like a tax on weight over roads
Just make sure that it scales with weight correctly as well!
I've actually learned of a way to cheat and not pay car tax at all. Sell it.
Defund highways yesterday, and letβs build free public transit everywhere, but sheβs right that regressive taxes arenβt the way to win the world we want. A wealth tax (or inheritance tax, or financial transactions tax, etc) would be far preferable. To miss that and adopt policies that exacerbate the cost of living crisis (even when they serve good goals) is to fail to understand the Yellow Vest protests and their lessons entirely.
I'm okay with regressive even punitive taxes on shitty things to pay for those shitty things.
And then they'll complain about potholes.
You Winsome, you lose some.
Wait, she has a point, axe the tax, but completely stop spending government money on roads made for cars.
Does she mean registration?
No, in Virginia there's an annual property tax on cars
I hope she means personal property tax because that's far more expensive than the registration. I actually don't mind paying the registration because the place I live actually uses it back in the community. Matter of fact during COVID the DMV was really relaxed with missed deadlines and the county even gave us a rebate when they over collected. This bitch is crazy and I really hope this petty little promise of a handout backfires on her.
Good. Let them pay tolls everywhere they go.