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I know that there are a lot of trans people on hexbear, and I know their beliefs are sincere. What I don’t understand is how they square the fact that they would be brutally suppressed, r*****, tortured, murdered by the very groups/governments they unwaveringly love and support. It sickens me. Is it a manifestation of self-hatred? I just don’t get why they would degrade themselves like this.
Live interview with a Gazan trans person: "I'm starving and my entire family has been murdered by the IOF. Please help us"
Liberal: "Hamas is so cruel to trans people"
Libs don't even try to understand critical support and what it means. Every time it's just "omg you love Russia and everything they do" or some other nonsense. They have no depth to their thoughts, it's like the first thing that comes to mind is the thing they will believe for the rest of their lives.
Their knee jerk reaction is their ideology and they have the audacity to act like communists are incoherent? They're the ones simultaneously telling me the US gov is bad, but we should support US imperialism because bombing trans people is better than their government oppressing them?
I can't tell you how often I have encountered the viewpoint that "Tankies only support Putin because they think he is a socialist."
And if you say something like "I have literally never met any 'tankie' that believes this and I meet a lot of them," they will just ignore you. No rebuttal, no insult, usually not even a cursory dismissal. They just act like you didnt say anything
Liberals learned their politics from star wars, expecting any amount of literacy from them is naive
The only people who fit the criteria for the liberal conception of communists are Caleb Maupin and that Haz guy. They're self styled communists who do speak positively about Putin and modern Russia. They also talk fondly about...the United States and talk shit about...service workers. They're the ones who are incoherent.
They're also virulent antisemites and pal around with actual fascists like that Dugin guy. My point here is that Maupin and Haz are probably feds or fed adjacent. And somehow these guys have become what a large groups of liberals believe a communist is.
"It just baffles me why a self-declared vegan woman would firmly support treaty rights, land back and tribal sovereignty for Pacific Northwest Indigenous groups when that literally includes Makah people killing whales as part of a tradition rooted in patriarchs' authority over women and slaves. Surely the humane and feminist thing to do here is to support the status quo of Makah women living in widespread poverty and ill health as a direct consequence of the settler-colonial paradigm, right‽"
Quoting Engels' speech "For Poland" (March 24, 1875)
As long as the independent life of a nation is suppressed by a foreign conqueror it inevitably directs all its strength, all its efforts and all its energy against the external enemy; during this time, therefore, its inner life remains paralysed; it is incapable of working for social emancipation.
Indeed, I've got a Hell of a lot more in common with a cishet Palestinian man than a non-binary Zionist settler, as sure as I've got a Hell of a lot more in common with a cishet homeless man than a non-binary cop.
As long as the independent life of a nation is suppressed by a foreign conqueror it inevitably directs all its strength, all its efforts and all its energy against the external enemy; during this time, therefore, its inner life remains paralysed; it is incapable of working for social emancipation.
Engels sniping these reactionary cockroaches from a century-and-half away
Damn that's a strong quote. Engels really doesn't get his due.
150 years later, plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose.
Is a gay Palestinian more likely to be killed by Israel or Hamas?
Stupid fucking ass moron liberals can't fathom having multiple different priorities, and in this case holding internationalism and socialism through anti-imperialism as a priority above sexuality or gender-identity.
I actually think they CAN comprehend it because they all hold nationalism above these things anyway. Gender-identity and sexuality to them are deprioritised when it comes to America's strategic alliance with Saudi Arabia for example, why? Because they are nationalists that place their nationalism and supremacy above that of these issues.
They pretend they can't understand it but they themselves do the exact same thing. The difference is nationalism vs internationalism determines which countries people do it with.
It all comes back to optimality theory, doesn't it?
Also, while I get where you're coming from, please try to refrain from casual ableism towards ID people.
Most places in the world are fairly equally shit for trans people. If a place is doing well, it is often hard for trans people still. If a place is in war and in famine, downgrade those conditions a step as you would if it were somewhere nice and calm.
And Iran isn't even the worst conditions. Of the countries with the most trans surgeries, the USA is number one, Thailand is two, and Iran is three. Iran's major cities are very modern and even look nicer to live in than many American ones.
Cost of living is very important to trans people, as we are often making less due to discrimination. Every trans person I've talked to in China has mentioned the discrimination and some unusual cultural quirks, but they've also mentioned they've not met a single homeless trans person. For the record, it's very easy to find homeless trans people in America, you can find some on hexbear even in our mutual aid comm. And despite the discrimination, these Chinese trans people have cheap housing in the downtown of major cities
but they’ve also mentioned they’ve not met a single homeless trans person.
Oh good, shipping homeless people out of sight and out of mind has worked then, glory to the People’s Republic of China!
Literally just describing what the West does and ascribing it to China.
PJ is a social fascist powermod, I consider their comments and posts to be low-hanging fruit.
Coming backs days later, but yes. PJ is my exhibit A of liberals being polite fascists.
What I don't understand is how libs can't go outside and see the things they say other countries are doing to queer and trans folks are happening right outside their door.
America could do a billion atrocities and they would still be focused on the things other countries are doing. It's because they don't want to fix their own backyard, because that takes actual effort. Instead they'd rather complain about things they have no control over because this lets them feel morally superior without needing to actually go outside and try to make change happen.
Libs come in here and prove me wrong. You can't.
Yeah but Putler is evil
The Chilcot report? What's that?
alright everyone it's time for your MANDATORY SUPPORT you have 
until your account is deleted by the auto-mod. Pledge it under this comment or ELSE
Mandatory support? More like "man, da tory support is strong on hexbear!"
: Here's what we believe and why we believe it.
: LA LA LA I CAN'T HEAR YOU
: I don't understand why Hexbear believes the things they do, can someone explain? Is it because [thing I pulled out of my ass]?
: Partially, but it's mostly because [other stuff pulled out of an ass]
None of them actually give half a shit about understanding anything, or else they'd ask us, they just want to circlejerk and invent random bullshit to attack us with.
"No, you see taking on the US's/NATO's/West's side doesn't mean we uncritically support everything that they do. I would like the US to have different policies on [LGBTQ, healthcare, etc.]. But you saying that every citizen of Russia that isn't currently active in overthrowing their government doesn't deserve to suffer and be killed, and that fascists aren't good just because they're Ukrainian means that you endorse everything that Putin and Russia does"
Yep. They want to make even considering the "Hexbear position" a sinful act, they want people to self-flagellate for thoughtcrimes. Libs do this shit all the time, like the Russia-Ukraine war, even considering the why of the war beyond "Putin Bad Man" is treated as a full on sinful act that invites anger and blind rage in these people. Just thinking about and seeking to understand things that could contradict their worldview is the biggest sin of all.
Why would they spend all the effort making this post when their argument is still "you would get thrown off a roof in [country that scares me]"
Also, ideologies are influenced by material conditions. Reactionary ideologies including transphobia have a tailwind in bad economic conditions, this is obvious in the USA now. Reducing Iran's (or gaza, yemen, etc) material conditions through warfare only increases the potential of reactionary ideologies to become a problem.
Reactionary ideologies including transphobia have a tailwind in bad economic conditions
China really proved through their economic policies in Xinjiang that it really does reduce chuddery. Within 10 years a hotbed of fundamentalism (funded by America) was effectively eliminated through good public policy and raising the standard of living for millions of people. It's why the state department is so mad and called it a "genocide" they can't fathom helping people, they can only think in terms of bombing people.
That's a good point. I wish I understood the details of how Xinjiang has changed over the years but I know it is doing very well now and Uyghur culture is respected and celebrated.
I wish we had public opinion polling from China, because I'm guessing that any "anti-uyghur" sentiment that existed in the non-uyghur population has also gone down in the past 20 years.
All of these horrible countries want to kill all of their trans citizens (bad).
We should bomb them and kill all of their trans citizens (good).
The good old "well, they're muslim so they have to be as bad as the Taliban/ISIS and completely indistinguishable. I won't look into this at all." thing. Israel's policies are in line with many of these nations on LGBTQ, with exceptions only to pink-wash their genocidal ethno-state.
And no mention ever of how horrid trans rights are in the UK especially and the west writ large. Whataboutism and all that
Some absolute headbangers in that thread
Pretty fucking hard, especially considering leaders are usually supported by their people
le sigh
If they genuinely sympathized with the innocent citizens of, say, Palestine, then they'd understand that the best thing for queer Palestinians is Palestinian liberation, not the defeat of Hamas, as once Palestine is free the wheels of social progress can turn as well. Crushing Palestine doesn't free the wheel, it destroys it. The same applies to all countries targeted by western imperialism that liberals attack on the basis of being socially reactionary.
Welp, nothing to be done about that except to mong war on that nation. Nothing says "peace loving" like bombing the shit out of a country, stealing their natural resources, and imposing a brutal dictator in place of theirs, but making sure he has even more troops and bombs than the old warmonger
Yes, we should (checks notes) kill the Iranian government and (checks notes) install new leadership that is more closely aligned with US interests, something that went (checks notes) - sorry this part is really hard to read, there's so much scribbled out- looks like it says "great" last time we tried it.
How could trans people disagree with me? I know I could listen to them, but I could also just decide that they make no sense and I know better
Liberals actively refuse to understand concepts of solidarity and critical support. They'll jerk themselves raw over "nuance" and their maturity for choosing lesser evils in domestic politics, but "critical support" in geopolitics just throws them for a fucking loop, I don't know what to tell you.
Just take a look under the mask of caring about trans people in these specific regions of American interest and you'll see it's just colonialism against the savages, just like it's always been. The colonizer always says the people there are terrible and need to be controlled and conveniently must also allow access to certain strategic resources.
The crowd that wants to drone strike and bomb every queer person in the middle east for being the wrong ethnic group is whining about queer people NOT wanting to do that
Hilarious and obscene on these chuds part, the greatest killer of Palestinian queer people has been Israel
If liberals don't like the current governments of those countries then why did they install them?
Is there some vetting test that was established after i became a member? If you have bad opinions you're free to keep them to yourself if you don't want to be bullied
The Stasi has reformed and constantly monitor all of your opinions. If they decide you are too reactionary, @[email protected] will ban you.
The edification of everything to the point where 'thing good' and 'thing bad' are the only imaginable viewpoints ('thing' being ontologically defined on their terms, of course). This is the epitome of liberal thought. 
The west does not care about trans rights or feminism, if it did Saudi Arabia would be making pro trans rights fatwas, they made ISIS in Syria pro Israel, there's nothing they can't make these groups do.
Yeah, I'm sure that whatever puppet the yanks want to install as ruler of Yemen is going to be a huge fucking ally of the LGBTQ community.
whataboutism
Whataboutism? What about deez nuts?