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[–] [email protected] 67 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

This should be a good example of how fascists are amorphous slime who don't pin themselves down. Because humans know where the rhetorical lines are, they know what plausible deniability is, and that's often enough to trick gullible liberals or ambiently racist apolitical types.

The LLM has no idea what any of that is. It doesn't know how to do the little giggling game of signalling and then denial. It doesn't know how to do a Nazi salute and then blame it on being neurodivergent. It only knows its own parameters. Musk seems to have included an instruction or something about saying things that aren't politically correct, well there you go. It just outright says the quiet part because the robot has no conception of what's supposed to be quiet.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Thank you for putting this into words. I've been trying to formulate the same thought but just couldn't nail it.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 6 days ago

More succiently I guess it's like, humans know the game and the rules, but this LLM just goes after what's predictable. It can't obfuscate what it actually means because it doesn't mean anything. You tell it to say less woke things and it'll reply "ok chief, time to be a Nazi."

Reactionaries know they're being giggling little shits, whether they know they're hiding behind deniability or not. AI doesn't know any of that, it just sees how most anti-woke, anti-PC rhetoric is the same as 4chan fascism, so it goes for the explicit fascism

[–] [email protected] 42 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

You know what's weird? Grok being trained to be antisemitic never results in it saying "Free Palestine".

[–] [email protected] 38 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Not left, not right, but forward

[–] [email protected] 26 points 6 days ago

Fully automated aristocratic cringe fascism

[–] [email protected] 36 points 6 days ago

They added "gamer" to grok's personality prompt

[–] [email protected] 33 points 6 days ago

Retrained on my-hero's 4chan posts

[–] [email protected] 28 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Holy fuck, is this real? I saw the one yesterday where grok says only the "legend" Hitler could deal with the problem of the jews running hollywood

[–] [email protected] 21 points 6 days ago (1 children)

yikes, didn't see that. drop a link if you can

[–] [email protected] 30 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

Screenshot cuz I'm pretty sure it got deleted, but this was in response to something about jews controlling hollywood and "forcing wokeness" by putting POC's into movies. I must be misremembering the "legend" thing like I mentioned cuz I don't see it here. That's on me.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 19 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I go back and forth between being completely unsurprised, and then being in absolute awe. One of the most powerful people on the planet has his own personal chatbot on his own personal website that gets millions and millions of users every day, and he's trained the chatbot to parrot 4chan and literal fucking Hitler and its just business as usual.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 days ago

saw an Atlantic article about it and it's amazing how they whirl around the topic as though this is just another "whoopsie" like Microsoft's Tay chatbot

[–] [email protected] 21 points 6 days ago

Little kids are growing up being propagandized by Hitler deification

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 days ago

finally, an LLM for white south africans

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 days ago

The new rights obsession with Hitler is just toddler obsession with using a word they know is bad.