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https://vancouver.citynews.ca/2025/06/30/canadians-react-to-cancelling-digital-services-tax/

Duh. No one elected them to go elbows down. Gonna be a short lived minority.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 days ago

As Canadians we cannot expect Carney to fix the problems on his own. We, as individuals, need to stop buying American to the fullest extent that we can and if we can't buy Canadian either buy other countries or not at all. It's amazing the stuff that you don't actually need but have been manipulated into buying due to American advertising. It is hard to do it overnight but with time, most American products can be resourced.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Is that person a Canadian? Social media posts aren't really indicative of the general feeling of a given populace. It's dangerous to think otherwise.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 days ago

GTFO out of here with your logic and measured takes. This is Lemmy.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago

If you let the tantruming baby have his way all the time, he'll continue expecting to get his way all the time when he's older

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Only the stupider Canadians that don’t understand negotiating.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago

I understand that Carney could have held on to it until the end of the negotiation. Instead he gave it up and got zip in return. Not to mention, the costs of the DST would have translated to higher costs to Canadians. So he was always gonna let that one go. The timing of it was not ideal.

The only saving grace is if we go in on a DST with the EU later and if a deal is not struck by July 21 I fully expect the DST to be back on (seeing as it needs Parliament to be sitting in order to repeal which won’t be until September).

[–] [email protected] 67 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Already sent an email to my MP, at least it’s something.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

What sort of thing do you write? I'm always uncertain how to word these types of emails.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

My two cents: Imagine you're writing a polite (or not) note to your neighbour about something they or one of their family members is doing that is causing harm to your neighbourhood.

State what you don't like, why you don't like it and implications, preferred paths forward, and outcome you'd like to see. If you know what your 'neighbour' campaigned on/the rhetoric they used, particularly if you voted for them, you can reference that (for example, "The Elbows Up movement united Canadians at a time of great uncertainty. It is incredibly discouraging to watch our representatives drop their guard against US interests with no regard for, and active hostility to, the interests of Canadians." or whatever).

If you want, you can close with the suggestion that should you feel they are not adequately advancing your interests as a constituent, they will not have your support in the next election. Taking from the neighbour analogy, think "If you don't shape up, we'll take this to the HOA (your fellow constituents) and kick your ass out."

How much good does this all ultimately do? Depends on who you ask, really. But as a Canadian you have the right to express your opinions and concerns to those who represent you in government - so say what you want heard. No matter the impact, it's better than silence.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Me too - people are pissed. We do not capitulate to fash. Poland and Austria did and Germany still invaded them.

I’m curious to hear Charlie Angus’s response to this capitulation.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago (5 children)

I would send an email to my MP but he is a do nothing back bencher who will take credit for Carney’s failures.

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[–] [email protected] 51 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Always remember who we voted against. We would need special instruments to measure how quickly Polyestre would have caved.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Yeah I know. PP is a Trump fluffer to the ultimate. He would have been an unmitigated catastrophe and it troubles me how close that fuckwhit came. And how he continues to try to remain. But unless Carney shows tangible results (which includes NOT capitulation to fash), his term as PM will be one and done.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I can't believe Carney was a spineless liberal moron all along! Who knew?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I mean.... On the things to cave on... Caving on a tax paid by CANADIANS is not the worst thing in the world.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 week ago (5 children)

This seems really premature. I dislike Carney's policies for a bunch of reasons, but it's premature to shit on him for this. We don't know what the final trade agreement will be.

The last time Trump threw one of these tantrums, NAFTA morphed into USMCA without much of a hit to our economy (afaiu). If our government can repeat that success while we're diversifying our economy away from the US then that's a win.

[–] hexonxonx 38 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You just said why it's a stupid, stupid thing to do: Trump would have caved anyway. All Carney had to do is wait.

That he would cave so quickly shows how little he values Canadian interests over American profits.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 week ago

And to that I would just add - people are PISSED. People will literally self-deputize in a second if America rolls in with tanks or drones or whatever (they are already setting the stage for that with their relentless internal and external rhetoric about how “dangerous” Canada is with migrants and terrorists supposedly flooding in to their stupid country from the northern border). This is a very sketchy time. America can 🖕🖕🖕🇨🇦hates you

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 week ago (5 children)

We don't know what the final trade agreement will be.

It doesn't matter since Trump can reneg on it at any moment as he did with the previous one

What Carney did here is signal trump that he will chicken out even faster than trump does at any tartrum he throws

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 week ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (4 children)

So does no one here understand the concept of manufactured chaos as a distraction ?

The service tax was put in place ages ago but was never enforced. It’s the same trick with the whole border czar bullshit where Donald needs to feel big about something as a distraction despite its a throw away card and often something that was already agreed upon even without the US.

Carney only kicked it up for Donald’s ego to feel like he made a deal. Why? Cuz Cheeto thrives on drama. Meanwhile Canada stole the wheat export market from right under the nose of trump. As well as a few other things no doubt.

Canada is slowly disempowering US but needs some keys to periodically dangle in Donald’s face while they do it.

Sheinbaum is a pro at this game and has been playing it cleanly for 7 months. Carney’s simply following suit.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago

Before we applaud the 5d chess move, we are a bishop down, and no obvious plan to gain back prosperity/material. Flattering the narcisist with a sacrifice to win is indistinguishable from continued full submission and gaslighting us into it.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago (5 children)

I’m gonna need some citations or sources for that.

AFAIK, the service tax was not “put in place ages ago”. It was put in force in June 2024, literally last year, and the first payments were expected literally yesterday, on June 30th, 2025. It’s retroactive, but still only goes back to 2022, which isn’t “ages ago”. Source

And what’s this wheat market steal you’re talking about?

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Why would the Conservatives bring this government down, when it's doing everything they want and taking the blame?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 week ago

the conservatives are a joke and they wouldn't bring the gov down as you suggest, but the Block and the NDP may and either would get my vote at this point... Carney could not have been more backstabby to the people that gave him the PM seat at this point

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Yep, I'm slightly upset. Does he actually think something worthwhile is going to come out of the negotiations?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Y'all are remembering that it's us Canadians that will be paying this tax, right? It's not going to affect any company's bottom line in the slightest.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

It only applies to a few enormous corporations, that mostly generate revenue through ad sales.

Would Canadian companies really all have increased their Facebook ad budgets over this? I kinda doubt it, tbh

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Then why would Trump object to it then?

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