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Former Israeli peace negotiator Daniel Levy on what's driving Netanyahu and why this will be a defining moment for Trump's MAGA movement.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago

Yes, He will. Because he's failed at literally everything else.

Tariffs blew up in his face. No deals. Economy is in the shitter. He wanted to be a strongman with his big beautiful military parade/birthday bash and he came out looking like a fool. 13,000,000 people turned out to tell him "Fuck You" on his birthday. And now he has the chance to be a war president? He's going to leap at the opportunity. Because not only is he unfathomably stupid. He's desperate to be respected. But this hypothetical war is turning even his diehard supporters against him. That's mostly from antisemitism when it comes to the chuds. They're more against helping jews than they're for attacking Iran.

Then there's the war hawks that have been doing everything in their power for decades to get the US to invade Iran. The John Boltons and McCains and Cheneys of the world. They're inhuman. They just want war. The more war the better. All war all the time.

The Reaganite wing of the republicans. They don't really give a fuck as long as they can deregulate, pollute, steal wages, and not pay taxes. They just want to make money. All it will cost to gain their support is enough insider trading info so they can buy into the right Offense Stocks before the hammer falls.

In all of these are AIPAC lobbyists. Throwing around bribes and blackmail threats to ensure support.

Trump will jump in like the fool he is. And it will once again be the young and the poor who pay the highest price.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 10 hours ago

Oligarchs first, in both cases, explains more.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

At the beginning of his term, the Turd was promising peace in Ukraine within a day. He was so desparate to get a "deal" done, and hoped to get a Nobel Price for peace that way - something he absolutely envied Obama for.

Then he learned that neither Putler nor Zelenskyy was a pushover apprentice like in his show, and the world is not a stage biased to make him look good.

Now he thinks he can reach his goal by "bringing peace" to the Levant, probaby by bombing the mullahs to ~~Kingdom Come~~ Paradise with 72 Virgins.

My prediction: This won't bring peace, but will terminally piss off everyone down there, and might bring a new 9/11. Or worse.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (2 children)

I suspect this is even worse. If these idiots succeed at forcing an externally imposed regime change, Iran (a country of 90 million people) might go the way of Syria, Afghanistan and Iraq, i.e., total fucking chaos for at least a decade if not more. If you thought Daesh and the refugee crisis was bad, just you fucking wait.

And this all happened while the Iranians were supposedly negotiating with the US. Why should anyone ever negotiate with the West ever again if it is just a stalling tactic until you get stabbed in the back? So not only is this a collapse of international law, it is even collapse of the basic capacity for international diplomacy. And it does send a hugely hugely strong message to the Saudis, the Turks, the Emiratis, basically anyone and everyone: get nukes asap, see what happened to Iran?.

Not to mention that the Israelis are causing US imperial over-extension, when the US fascist right (Bannon, MTG, etc) are already distancing themselves from zionists. So who do you think the fascists will blame for US decline once immigrants and democrats are no longer adequate scapegoats? Who is always the scapegoat of last resort for the fascists?

The 20th century was monstrous. Well, fellow monkeys, welcome to the 21st...

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

20 years in Afghanistan brought a regime change from Taliban to worse Taliban and cost trillions of dollars and thousands of American lives.

Changing Iran from mullahs to worse mullahs will be in the same ballpark.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago

Yes but, think about all those military contractors that got rich.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Iran (a country of 90 million people) might go the way of Syria, Afghanistan and Iraq, i.e., total fucking chaos for at least a decade if not more. If you thought Daesh was bad, just you fucking wait.

Small correction: Afghanistan wasn't "total chaos;" it was an insurgency against US occupation and after the US left the Taliban immediately took power. If we use this as our model for a post-war Iran (since it doesn't have the kind of sectarian tensions that created the Syrian and Iraqi civil wars) we'd expect more a better armed Taliban than ISIS.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

Iran for sure does have sectarian tensions under the surface. There are Kurds, Azeris, Arabs, Balochs etc. Shias, Sunnis, secularists, workers, capitalists, etc etc. There are all the ingredients for a big big chaos.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 hours ago

Picture in your mind the worst possible decision. That is what the Orange Turd will chose.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 hours ago

America First or Israel First?

They are the same