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[–] [email protected] 52 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I think I saw someone do an intensive breakdown of this scene where they estimated the density of the logs, calculated their velocity by counting the number of frames it took them to collide with the walker, then calculated the crush resistance of the walker's frame by measuring how much it deformed in response to the amount of energy the logs put into it.

IIRC, the AT-ST walker has a frame approximately as durable as a family minivan. So... not like terrible... assuming you weren't taking your walker anywhere more dangerous than soccer practice, but not very impressive for military hardware.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The prevalent weapon in the SW universe are energy weapons. It could be that the AT-ST was armoured against energy weapons and not kinetic weapons. They are also scout vehicles analogous to WWII wheeled scout cars which were lightly armoured.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago

While not common, kinetic weapons do still exist, and are widely used by outlaws and pirates because of how cheap and easy they are to keep running.

Since I'd wager most of what the empire does by 5BBY is clearing outlaw gathering places, putting down civilian riots, and not fighting against fully equipped rebels (at least not on a scale large enough to matter in terms of designing entirely new units) they would come up against kinetics fairly often. Often enough that they would either need a separate vehicle for patrolling such areas, or the general purpose unit needs more structural integrity.

The empire does like making "good enough" units that can be deployed everywhere, so they really should make the ATST stronger.

They constantly underestimate their opponents, though.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 years ago (1 children)

If you want to get realistic then we first have to ask why anyone would actually design an AT-ST when they can just take pictures from orbit. Why was there ground combat at all when the ships can drop kinetic weapons from orbit that have the impact of a nuke with none of the radioactivity?

Let's just enjoy the fantasy.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Because sometimes you want to keep what's on the ground without leveling it?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

But then how will everyone know how evil I am?

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Lucas decided the trees on Endor are part metal and are therefore hyperdense or some such nonsense

This solves all problems with the scene

Stop asking questions or the Ewoks will shit in your shoe.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 years ago (1 children)

That would mean when the Ewoks are cooking food metal fillings were ending up in smoke and hence food? Would explain why they are all so short, maybe they are basically kids since all of them die at a young age from metal toxicity.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago

No, it means that they're like those undersea vent snails that ingest heavy metals. Ewoks are short, but they're freaky strong because of ultra dense bones and muscles!

[–] [email protected] 29 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Realisticly this would probably be enough to make a two legged mech like that fall tho

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago

Not if it scutters to the side quickly. Like spot the Boston dynamics robot in testing videos when it gets shoved sideways.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The force from each side cancels each other out, preserving perfect balance 🙏

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

The rule of 2 brings balance to the force (and this ATST)

[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Teddy bears smashing imperial armor with log traps was when Star wars jumped the shark IMHO.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Certainly not its finest moment.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

As a child I loved the scenes with the teddybears. Even tho it's not realistic, it got a beautiful atmosphere.

And at the end Luke is kissing his sister, so that was weird.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

I actually like the Ewok scenes outside of the end battle. The end battle though? Just makes the Imperial forces look like we never should have taken them as a serious threat.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Leia kisses Luke in ANH and ESB, no kissing in RotJ.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Can someone use magically AI bullshit to make Han Solo murder Jar Jar?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Lets be real. Jar Jar should have died in the Gungan city when he returned after being banished.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago

For the empire

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

That's why I always field meltalogs

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

AT-AT stands for All Terrain Armored Transport
AT-ST stands for All Terrain Scout Transport

hence: not "Armored"
It's a Humvee on legs.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 2 years ago

The last two frames and especially the final frame do not say very much.