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Even with android custom ROMs like Lineage, support eventually ends. Meanwhile, you can just slap on linux onto any old computer and its still getting the latest updates. ๐Ÿค”

Why not just do the same thing with phones? Forever phone updates? ๐Ÿ‘€

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[โ€“] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

The way that Google and Apple approaches programming is a little obtuse and it never gets out of the way.

Without someone like Linus Torvalds rewriting a whole new approach to mobile phones we're all stuck with the majority offerings from lock-in corporations.

Then there's telcos and manufacturers who never get out of the way either. So, even if we run to changemakers like FDroid the desired compatibility is still limited by a cacophony of weird restrictions and unknown difficulties.

With mobile phones we need to start manufacturing with Open Source to get the compatible-mobiles industry up to standards first. It's not something that's happening because those guys are far too retired to come back to a new front for machine compatibles - it's 80s stuff.

Also, a non-java scheme would be a better way to go. Java development is all about using giant washing machines to spin out compilations from esoteric versions of fragile code. Having code that didn't break every year would be great too.

[โ€“] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Directly from my ass, it's my assumption that the primary maintainers just don't have an incentivize the cost of supporting older devices and the disparate hardware configurations.

Like, planned obscellesance or not, smartphone churn is going to happen anyways. People lose them, smash them, fall into a pool with them, decide they NEED the newer camera soldered into them, etc...

It's not like there are old phones in a closet somewhere propping up business critical infrastructure like with computers.

The cost vs utility of maintaining forward features and security patches for a massive catalog of hardware configurations just isn't there.

[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

I think it has a bit to do with a lot of firmware or drivers being closed source too. I feel like a couple years ago I ran into that issue with camera my old Android phone had

[โ€“] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago (6 children)

When I bought my phone 5 years ago, 128G of storage seemed limitless. Now it appears to be a tightening constraint. Should I be able to increase that storage, I wouldn't even be thinking of a new phone. Sadly, Samsung removed storage expansion from their flagships.

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[โ€“] Clent -3 points 22 hours ago

Part of this is because the device has to connect to cellphone towers where the radio equipment is on its own lifecycle path and eventually replaced.

Eventually the feature set of a device is too outdated for the carrier's network to syooort it.

Developer time is limited and so there is little to no value using that time to support very old hardware that would be WiFi only.

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

No parts standardization, replacements, or compatability.

Short lifespan batteries.

Very small chipsets/components have capabilities increase via tech advancement at a faster rate than larger boards.

Actually very similar to larger apple products as well.

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