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Despite comments made by Donald Trump just now (“we’ll see”), the US military is set to temporarily deploy about 700 Marines to Los Angeles while additional National Guard troops arrive in the city, a US official has told Reuters.

The official, speaking on the condition of anonymity, said a battalion would be sent, but for now, the Insurrection Act is not expected to be invoked.

The official added that the situation was fluid and could change.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

The President deploying Marines inside the U.S. without invoking the Insurrection Act, declaring an emergency, or getting local/state approval — especially just to respond to peaceful protests — is unlawful on multiple levels:

  • 🔹 Violates DoD Directive 3025.18 – Active-duty military (including Marines) can’t engage in domestic law enforcement unless explicitly authorized.
  • 🔹 Violates the First Amendment – Peaceful protest is protected. Military suppression = unconstitutional. (NAACP v. Claiborne Hardware Co., 458 U.S. 886).
  • 🔹 Violates the Fourth Amendment – Military detentions/searches are illegal without cause. (Indianapolis v. Edmond, 531 U.S. 32).
  • 🔹 Ignores Posse Comitatus limits – PCA (18 U.S.C. § 1385) applies to Army/Air Force, but DoD extends it to all branches.
  • 🔹 Unlawful military orders – Troops must disobey unconstitutional orders (UCMJ Art. 92; U.S. v. Calley, 48 C.M.R. 19).
  • 🔹 Impeachable abuse of power – Violates Article II, Section 4 of the Constitution.

This isn’t just controversial — it’s flat-out illegal.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Who is going to enforce any of those laws? The same police who are all too happy brutalizing peaceful protestors? I think we’re way past the point of laws making any difference with this administration.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

You’re not wrong, but it still needs to be called out. And our troops need to know that it is incumbent upon them to refuse to follow unlawful orders.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

They’re the federal government’s troops not yours and they’ll follow their masters orders they are not on the same side as you.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago

Yep. But who's stopping them? I swear to god they're poking the bear to incite revolution. Break all the laws, prove they're immune, incite full out rebellion, then invoke martial law, then write new laws that they will actually follow (for a time), just to get their new utopia.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

So the deployed national guard are obeying unconstitutional orders?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

Technically, the president can Federalize the national guard in the case of inability to enforce U.S. laws, which is what he is claiming; that the protests are interfering with ICE doing their fascist jackboot crap aka enforcing U.S. Laws. Whether what ICE is doing is legal is another can of worms. So the whole thing is gray area. But actually deploying Marines appears to be flat out illegal.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The military fights wars, not unarmed protestors. Trump just declared war on our own citizens.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

This is pretty much why Trump wants US withdrawal from the international stage, so he can use the military against its own citizens.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It would seem there's going to be a riot

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago
[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago (3 children)

doesn't the governor of california have a spine?

...oh, right, democrat and stuff.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 week ago

Yeah honestly. Instead of just suing the administration, why hasn't he given the national guard contravening orders to stand down? If Trump's orders are indeed illegal then that's seems to me like a perfectly reasonable thing to do.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago

just controlled opposition

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

Also as others have joked, he's hoping to get them redirected to remove homeless people instead of immigrants

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

"Temporarily"