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[–] [email protected] 100 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Just read I the Norwegian news that two air bases in Murmansk (near the Norwegian border) were hit. If anything, this kind of strike hammers home how our support for Ukraine directly makes us safer as well.

These are planes that likely would have been used against Norway in the event of a war. Support for Ukraine is directly helping destroy equipment that otherwise could be used to attack us. We just need more people to understand this so we can get popular support for increasing our support a hundredfold.

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[–] [email protected] 65 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The drones were controlled via Russian telecommunication networks

*chef's kiss*

[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Russian drivers and Russian networks

Seems like a case of "Stop hitting yourself!"

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago

They should shut down all telecommunications networks and stop all truck traffic. Just in case.

[–] [email protected] 46 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Fookin' lovely!

SLAVA UKRAINI!

[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Fuckin well done lads, keep up the good work. At this rate they won’t even have enough planes to stock the carrier they can’t sail anywhere

Slava Ukraini

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

That's misinformation, they can sail the carrier wherever they want.

Provided the use enough tugboats.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The one ship Ukraine should consider not sinking. It may cost Russia more by leaving it afloat.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

On the other hand, think of the Lols.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago

You make a strong argument.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago

With long ropes, gotta reach all the way down to the bottom.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Very roughly speaking, how many comparable aircraft does Russia own, just so I can understand the extent of this attack? Sounds great either way.

[–] [email protected] 49 points 2 weeks ago (9 children)

I was seeing from other online spaces that this would be about 30% of Russias strategic bomber fleet and it's accompanying aircraft like their AWACs that got hit.

If that's the case that's a staggeringly bad day for the Russian air force, which means it's a good fucking day.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Thank you, and wow, that's some good fucking news.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 weeks ago

30% less bombers means drone and missile attacks into Ukraine can be significantly decreased that's one of the biggest developments since the start of the war.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

@Bonifratz @AnalogNotDigital I was interested in this - can you share where this figure came from / how calculated?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

They have roughly 120 strategic bombers in their air force. 40 of those is 33%.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

@AnalogNotDigital Ah I found BBC, Reuters and AP quoting the Ukranian SBU " SBU officially confirmed it had carried out the strikes, saying that "34% of [Russia's] strategic cruise missile carriers" were hit" - bbc.com/news/articles/c1ld7ppr… - and that " Tu-95 and Tu-22M3, as well as A-50 were destroyed" - Claims not yet independently verified. - It sounds like a massive hit but I have a feeling that we might see independent claims downgrading the figure a bit. The "strategic cruise missile carriers" is also a bit of qualifier. I would assume that there are independent estimates of what usable air power Russia has. I'm not seeing those chime in yet.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago

I think the "strategic cruise missile carriers" bit is just a bad translation, it's clear in ukranian he means "we blew up aircraft capable of launching cruise missiles" and then is discussing the specific aircraft destroyed as separate figures.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

For what I thought I knew, they only had 3 (some say they had only one but I doubt it) airworthy AWACS (the A50) so losing one makes it impossible to patrool & cover even the most important parts of russia.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago

Exactly. This is a massive strike that we fully won't know the repercussions of for a little bit. We'll just have to see how their optempo changes. It honestly could be even worse for them. They have 120 of those bombers, period. Meaning some of them might not even be air worthy at all and are just spare parts.

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[–] harrys_balzac 29 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I just watched a couple of videos on this attack and one thing that stood out is the AWACS - Russia has 5, but only one airworthy one and Ukraine hit that one.

Basically, the Russian AF is blind outside of its bases. It's going to make it much more difficult for Russia to operate outside its borders.

One report I saw says they even hit a base near the northern border with Finland. A Russian sub has possibly been promoted to artificial reef.

Combine this attack with the two bridge collapses and the attack on Vladivostok, and Russia should be worried. Ukraine and their domestic insurgency can hit pretty much anywhere.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago

Thanks. Great stuff.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Wow. Honestly kinda surprised they were that vulnerable. Doesn't Russia have any sort of CWIS systems to defend their ground based nuclear bombers and advanced radar command and control aircraft? Seems kinda important, don't you think?

[–] [email protected] 43 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

They were expecting big slow drones that would take hours flying from Ukraine. Instead they got many small ones that took 18 months to arrive but were invisible until the last minute. A surprise zerg rush, when they were expecting and preparing against ultralisks.

(My analogies are very weak today)

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Zergling rush with overlord drops. 🀌

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

At like the 20 minute mark when all their bases are mined out and they can't rebuild

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

They seem to have gotten complacent because they can just move the planes if Ukraine sends long range drones.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Pretty much all of their air defense seems to be stationed at the front and around their oil facilities.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 2 weeks ago

Blowing up an oil facility on at least a weekly basis for the past year will definitely do that. Like a boxer going for a hundred consecutive body shots then throwing a haymaker at the face.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 weeks ago

I'm wondering if the man power drain is affecting them that much.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Getting fucking rekt, Russia. Sabotage is king

[–] cyrano 20 points 2 weeks ago
[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 weeks ago

Maybe you should stop shooting cruise missiles on Ukraine. What a fucking incredible feat!

Slava Ukraine!

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

How much does it cost to replace?

[–] [email protected] 32 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Most of these cannot be replaced. They were already short on parts beforehand.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

So what is the expected monetary-equivalent loss taken?

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 weeks ago

Well, the A-50 and the TU-22 M3 mentioned in the article cost around 300-400 million USD each but it's not known yet how many of each type have been damaged and to what extent. Inflicting monetary damage is not as much of a priority compared to crippling Russia's ability to continue their air assaults.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 weeks ago

Literally irreplaceable as Russia can't build these planes anymore.

The dollar value is easily in the billions.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago

Too bad so sad lol. Suck it Ruskies.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago

The tankie triad is going to have an extra chip on their shoulders these upcoming days.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Nice job, folks! Would suck to be whichever yes-man had to inform Pootie about the $7 billion in aircraft they lost in one night, a third of their ability to deliver cruise missiles.

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