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Linux is a family of open source Unix-like operating systems based on the Linux kernel, an operating system kernel first released on September 17, 1991 by Linus Torvalds. Linux is typically packaged in a Linux distribution (or distro for short).

Distributions include the Linux kernel and supporting system software and libraries, many of which are provided by the GNU Project. Many Linux distributions use the word "Linux" in their name, but the Free Software Foundation uses the name GNU/Linux to emphasize the importance of GNU software, causing some controversy.

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[–] [email protected] 83 points 1 month ago (1 children)

There is an unintended benefit to putting an obstacle between people who don't know how to use the terminal and pasting code into it.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Expanding on this, we could make it so that root must use ed(1) to edit files?

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 month ago (1 children)

"Ed is the standard text editor."

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

vi is so outdated, we use viii now. You're two versions behind!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

Ha! Butterflies!

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 month ago (8 children)

Control+C is used to kill a process in the terminal and that shouldn't be overwritten. If it is, you'd have to create a totally separate key binding to kill a process. Seems unnecessarily complex when Control+Shift+C works just fine.

[–] [email protected] 46 points 1 month ago (5 children)

The article doesn't suggest using Control+C. It talks about dedicated copy and paste key codes, and you can program your keyboard to map those codes to whatever keys you like. They suggest Fn+C.

[–] [email protected] 51 points 1 month ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

Holy shit can you guys read the article please? It's an existing standard and a dedicated keycode

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (4 children)

We could use Ctrl+Insert and Shift+Insert like in the last three decades, but some of these keyboards apparently forgot about the Insert key.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

Well yeah but shift insert is annoying as hell since the keys are so far apart

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago

Control+C is used to kill a process in the terminal and that shouldn’t be overwritten.

Agreed. The post didn't suggest that.

Seems unnecessarily complex when Control+Shift+C works just fine.

For people already using programmable keyboards global copy/paste shortcuts are a nice perk.

I spend nearly all my day in a browser or a terminal and as I use a terminal and browser that already support this, the effect is 99% complete.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago

Kitty has a setting that makes Ctrl-C copy text, but only if you've selected something. If you haven't it does a regular break. Best of both worlds!

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I feel like you may have misunderstood the article. It's talking about how support is increasing for dedicated Copy keys, and that programmable keyboards make it easy to use dedicated Copy keys. The article does not mention changing the behaviour of Ctrl-C.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Come on, having a 3-key combo for such a common task is a PITA. There's a reason people have been complaining about this for decades.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The first time you accidentally type Control-C into a terminal and cancel an important process when you meant to copy some text it becomes a PITA.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Exactly. I do it pretty regularly and I've been using Linux for 20 years.

And yet people here are still saying "no biggie". It's pure status quo bias.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

And I'm pretty sure this key combination predates copy and paste key combinations.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 month ago (1 children)

My patch to add Copy/Paste keycode support to the Cosmic Terminal was merged!

https://github.com/pop-os/cosmic-term/pull/481

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

As someone who likes Rust but dislikes the look of COSMIC, are there plans to allow theming?

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Honestly, this is a nice feature of macOS (or at least iTerm 2; I don’t use the official terminal). I know CTRL-C is used to kill processes and we all have that muscle memory but I usually try to change that on my personal Linux installs because I’ve hit it by mistake before.

I used to use CTRL+INSERT for copy and SHIFT+INSERT for paste but there’s usually no insert key on laptops or even small keyboards. It’s probably time to just adapt.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago

⌘C and ⌘V work in the native MacOS terminal app as well.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

It’s the #1 thing that drives me crazy about Linux.

It seems obvious. You’ve got a Windows/Apple/Super key and a Control key. So you’d think Control would be for control characters and Windows/Apple/Super would be for application things.

I can understand Windows fucking this up, cuz the terminal experience is such a low priority. But Linux?

There’s some projects like Kinto and Toshy which try to fix it, but neither work on NixOS quite yet.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

I still use ctrl+ins and shift+ins every now and then. I've hit ctrl+shift+c a few times while in my browser (Vivaldi) which unfortunately is bound to "create note". Ctrl+ins is a great workaround than using an extra neuron when in a terminal to also hit shift when copying.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Holy fucking shit. I just realized that's why Ctrl + C and Ctrl + V don't work in Micro. This has been eye opening.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I have been trying to bind ctrl c to copy in micro and alacrity, I can't find a way.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I've been using ctrl+c for copy and ctrl+v for paste for over a decade in my linux terminal by remapping the interrupt to ctrl+x.

It's basic ergonomics and user friendliness.

I do it on all my personal devices and servers.

Nothing bad happened in those ~15 years that I've been doing that. What the fuck are you arguing about?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago (7 children)

I might actually do that too, but not for ergonomics. I'm just going nuts with sometimes ctrl-c,. sometimes ctrl-shift-c, sometimes ctrl-ins

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago (2 children)

selection autocopy and wheel/shift ins pasting is superior to all alternatives imo

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Centre click is a godsend though. I recently had to start using Windows again and I keep instinctively hitting it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

One of the first things I had to disable when I switched to linux lol Middle click has so many other uses in windows that made it sooo jarring. Ctrl c and crtl v are good enough for me. (Or shift in terminals)

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago (6 children)

That's why we have mice copy/paste bindings on most systems too. Highlighting text auto copies, and scroll wheel click pastes. Not all do this, but many do and have for a while.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (5 children)

That’s a popular terminal feature, but I regularly get tripped up because my terminal has that behavior but my browser does not.

That’s what’s nice about a global solution.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

Ctrl+Ins gang rise up

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Wow. I haven't seen a Sun keyboard like that in .. geez forever. Whose were fun times. I was younger then.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I use a key remapper to give me the readline keys everywhere. Though I've used XKeysnail and xremap and they're both a bit flakey, so if anyone has better recommendations that work on X11 and Wayland, I'm all ears.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

Nice !! I like the 'old new again' effect ^^

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

sigh can't believe that no one mentioned that there is a default set of shortcuts that are used across all GNU programs, and it's been the default since way before Ctrl+C/Ctrl+V existed. You can easily copy/paste stuff in any terminal using the same keypresses you would on Emacs, I.e. Ctrl+space to start selection, Alt+W to copy and Ctrl+Y to paste. In fact you can navigate the entire line the same way, not just copy/pasting but moving back and forward, selecting and deleting stuff, e.g. Ctrl+A Ctrl+K cuts the entire line.

Unless you activate Vi mode (which most terminals support) and then you can use the same keypresses you would on Vi, including ci" and other cool stuff that's much more powerful that simple copy/paste.

There is a default, it's just not the same as word uses.

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