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[–] [email protected] 147 points 2 months ago (6 children)

if Democrats ever win I fully exepct this:

"Now is a time of healing. To better unify our Great Nation™®© we are going to let Republicans fill every committee and pick every judge, we are even looking into how we might let them have the presidency. If we can't, do not worry, we will behave as if we were Republicans and will do as they wish."

[–] [email protected] 45 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I think Bernie's Fight the Oligarchy Tour is changing this, but more people needs to push this.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (6 children)

So is David Hogg, the new Vice Chair of the DNC. He’s a Gen-Z school shooting survivor who’s committed to primary out the centrists and turn them into a real opposition party.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago

Once Newsom is in CECOT he will have plenty of time to think about what he could have done.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yea, the "democrats" will want to "reach across the table" and work with these fucking traitors. Why? Because most of them are likely in on it.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago (2 children)

They take the same money from the same corporations. They don’t care if they win or lose an election.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 months ago

Yep, that's what Obama did with the Bush people and the people that caused the GFC. And now all these people are back for round 2 with nothing learned (well, they learned there are no consequences no matter what they do).

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 months ago

Fucking hate how true this is.

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[–] [email protected] 81 points 2 months ago (3 children)

There isn't going to be another government or another free election until the current regime is put to the sword.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 2 months ago

If it isn't entirely obvious that's the next play, I agree.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Agree. But who will do that?

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[–] [email protected] 51 points 2 months ago (9 children)

lmao what

you still believe in these fucks?

System's broken. We don't need a different party in charge of the system we need a new system.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Agreed. The US is over. These people are bouncing the entire stock market up and down using tariffs and doing insider trading on it ... there is no justice whatsoever.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago

I mean, considering my post from the last 4 months you guys are making me so proud to be on lemmy right now.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago

Approval voting and more parties could theoretically improve things quite a bit. But switching to approval voting is probably not simple because why should the biggest parties support something that hurts them.

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[–] Viking_Hippie 50 points 2 months ago (13 children)

That's literally the opposite of what the Dem leadership ever does. Expecting them to put the outcomes for regular people over system rules and norms (and their owner donors) is like expecting a sheep to become an obligate carnivore.

Neoliberals don't change the system, they ARE the system. You're not going to get systemic change from someone whose raison d'être is protecting the norms and rules at all costs.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 months ago

old guard dems are just GOP in disguise, because they often work together behind the scenes making deals, they both of the same megadonors, additionally they hope to get by being "not-republican" candidates.

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Start by sending a handful of Republican Senators and Congressfolk to El Salvador.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] Viking_Hippie 8 points 2 months ago
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[–] [email protected] 32 points 2 months ago

They would need to grow spines first.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Democrats are centrist liberals. They are capitalists. They are cop-loving authoritarians. They will never fulfill your leftist liberatory desires. Stop deferring your political will to wishes they will never manifest. You have Stockholm Syndrome. Go do something yourself that matters to you in your own community.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Well said, I'm still going to post my opinions but there's really nothing you've said that I can refute.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

I should probably add: I don't mean to be a dick. I say all this stuff because I care, I hate seeing comrades efforts and dreams and desires frustrated by this deadend political party year after year, election after election. I imagine if all the passion we drained into the DNC instead went into creative modes of organization and direct action in our own towns and cities?

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (5 children)

Is this how liberals fantasize about revolutionary action while still staying as milk toast as possible?

Edit: I appreciate Lemmy for the simple fact that I can use "liberal" in any sub and not be considered a conservative by default when I'm criticizing that perspective.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Man, if I'm milquetoast I don't know how anyone on this site could get away with being more controversial than I already am.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Well you’re fantasising about elections and not lining up republican politicians against the wall or gunning them down as they head to their car after work.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (4 children)

Yeah, you're right, your fantasy that you're never going to do in real life is so much better than that other fantasy that isn't happening.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (5 children)

Pandora’s box is opened, and once that happens, it’s almost impossible to close it. I’m going to be honest, the next election cycle, I’ll consider voting for the blue equivalent of Trump. Now that we know presidents can act like kings, it’s time progressives capitalized on that. Why not lock up rightwingers and hatemongers, slap tariffs on oil, and deport Zionists in order to fight Islamophobia?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago

Presidents can act like kings if they have the Legislative and Judicial branches in their pocket. No progressive ever will.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 months ago

Presidential immunity gives a democratic incumbent the right to slap a republican senator daily

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 months ago (6 children)

Sorry, I get the spirit of the meme and it’s nice to daydream but fuck no. I don’t trust the Democrats to do anything in the interest of the people.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It's not whether you trust one absolutely or not.

It's always, as ever, relative. You pick between the options for the best bad option or you abdicate your vote and then must suffer (potentially) the worst of both worlds.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

What I mean is I don’t want the Democrats to go hog wild with the law the same way the Republicans are because they are also owned by the Capitalists. Since I don’t have another choice of course I’m very likely to Vote Blue No Matter Who™️ to my great displeasure, unless a more progressive party takes the lead by a landslide and actually has a good chance of winning

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 months ago (7 children)

A Democrat would never do it. You'd need an actual Leftist. They'd be the only ones with enough spine to sacrifice their own political career and reputation to get it done.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago

Yeah, but a bj in the oval office? I mean, have you met Hilary???

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You think the laws will be fair? Check out how they're going to give Trump a 3rd term but keep Obama ineligible.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

You right, they would have said the president is a powerless figure head on Monday and on Tuesday they would have a coronation. Full military parade.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 months ago (2 children)

They'd just have rolled it all back on Jan 21.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 months ago

I mean, there was plenty of time between November and Jan 21 to rendition 3 justices, anyone in Congress tied to Russian money, the entire trump campaign and all of the Republican money middlemen that launder Russian money for political campaigns

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago (2 children)

If we manage to have another presidential election, I will be behind any progressive or Democrat that promises to use the presidency in the exact way as Trump.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Forcing an rewritten version of the Constitution that eliminates flaws and loopholes, enacting term and age limits on all elected offices and the judiciary, deleting the electoral college, and so forth?

I am in.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

At this point the main priority for the democrats has to be reforming the American voting system.

First past the post needs to go away, permanently.

It is ridiculous to have situations where a state population votes 51% for one candidate and 49% for the other, while the state as a whole gets to throw out the 49% of the other candidate.

Once that happens, other parties will spring up and actually have a possible way to get elected.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

“If” doing some heavy lifting there

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It's rather optimistic assuming that Republicans would act like they gave a shit about rule of law if they were the ones who wrote them. Laws are just for everyone else, in their minds.

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