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[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago (2 children)

last i checked elves were very explicitly doomed to fade away as magic left middle earth, and what with it canonially being our reality in the past and us now having 8+ billion humans alive, how many elves were there at the last point in time depicted in the books? It feels pretty safe to say we outnumber them now, at least.

Also makes me wonder what's supposed to have happened to dwarves, i think hobbits just interbred with humans until everything kinda evened out but did dwarves do that too? must have been a bloody slow process considering.. everything about them..

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Didnt the elves leave Middle Earth for lands across the sea, or at least some of them, to avoid dying off?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

They did. Elves are a migratory species.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Seems accurate, since IIRC Valinor is no longer reachable by normal means, after the Earth stopped being flat.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Have you not heard the story of Ælfwine?

He was initially the fictional narrator/author of Tolkien's works, later just referenced as a character. Born in the late 800s(by our reckoning) England, and he learned of the story when he was the first human who sailed to Valinor in thousands of years. He is a distant descendant of Elves which probably helped, but at that point most humans probably are related to them.

It was left out of The Silmarillion, but is mentioned in some other works released by Christopher.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

All of Christopher's releases are unfinished or scrapped ideas. In this case probably deliberately because it messes with quite a lot of his definitely-not-an-allegory.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

IIRC one book says that hobbits still exist, but got smaller, and too shy to appear.

Dwarves just died off, too few children.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

so hobbits turned into gnomes and duendes? yeah honestly that tracks

F in chat for the dwarves 😔

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

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