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[–] [email protected] 115 points 2 months ago (3 children)

A feminist guy who is in his late twenties and dates a 19-year-old

[–] [email protected] 45 points 2 months ago

He’s feminist because he still splits the bill 50/50. feminism

[–] [email protected] 35 points 2 months ago

power dynamics

[–] [email protected] 63 points 2 months ago (3 children)

I’m gen Z and my partner is a millennial guy #AgeGap #PowerDynamics

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(we were born in ‘98 and ‘95, respectively) picard-troll

[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 months ago

stuff like this really illustrates how fake generations are. you're in a "different generation" with someone 3 years older, but in the "same generation" as someone 15 years younger, while your partner is in the "same generation" as someone 15 years older

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 months ago (2 children)

it's very interesting how the "power gap" arguers never use the same argument for other axes of power

like supposedly it's a huge power gap if a 30 year old dates a 23 year old
but it's not a power gap if a white guy dates a black girl

makes no sense whatsoever, literally nobody in the history of the world has been shot for being 23 years old

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Not that I necessarily agree with the age gap discourse (never participated), but isn't it a different thing with age since it's about maturation?

Also, I've definitely seen people at least talk about the power dynamics between rich americans dating people in lower income countries. That shit can go sideways fast especially if one individual had the power to decide the other's visa status.

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[–] [email protected] 54 points 2 months ago (1 children)

If you look at the top political streamers, the conservative and manosphere dominates podcasts and twitch streamers. Hasan seems to be the only one in a leftist direction that makes numbers anywhere near all the other guys. Maybe we need others who seem "cool" that appeal to a younger demographic? Idk.

[–] [email protected] 51 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It's a vicious cycle of watching porn, thinking real life is a porno, getting frustrated that you're not sexed-up 24/7, seeking out other lonely men, getting radicalized off red pill types that prey on lonely men, rinse and repeat.

[–] [email protected] 46 points 2 months ago (2 children)

seeking out other lonely men,

the right move at that stage was kissing other lonely men and finding out true love there

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[–] [email protected] 48 points 2 months ago

Lmao also somewhat explains how as a guy from that same time frame 90% of the friends I’ve made are lesbian. Like the you wanna hang out and drink a beer and talk about your shitty work? You don’t want some dude talking about whatever they saw on youtube, you want a salt of the earth lesbian who’s actually been through the ringer with you and you know you have each others backs

[–] [email protected] 48 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I'm getting a little uncomfortable with the whole "all gen Z men are fascists" rhetoric lately. I don't think that's true. way too many of them are for sure, but there's plenty of leftists or at least radlibs too. a lot of Gen Z men at those campus protests for Palestine. from what I can tell Gen Z has been radicalized in all sorts of different directions, but the media only wants to talk about the ones who have been radicalized to the right... for some reason

and let's not act like older men are any better. millennials and Gen X created the manosphere and a lot of them are consuming it too

[–] [email protected] 48 points 2 months ago

The kids are definitely not alright and they won't be for a while.

[–] [email protected] 47 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Psyop article I don't believe men from older generations are any better and especially not the ones going after 19 year old women

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

If we take this graph at face value (it's boxed in by the US party duopoly and the nost extreme young men probably weren't interested in a poll about their beliefs) it amounts to a political divergence between the genders and young men being relatively more conservative:

Gen Z men, Deckman noted, have “reverted to the mean of men”: while they’re not necessarily more conservative that most men, they are more conservative than their millennial counterparts.

Source: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-interactive/2024/aug/07/gen-z-voters-political-ideology-gender-gap

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 months ago

Thx for the info. Adding that a man identifying with left/lib politics doesn't guarantee him to not be a misogynist, but a young woman may not yet recognize that.

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[–] [email protected] 45 points 2 months ago

Honestly I feel like I'm taking crazy pills whenever people online talk about this, I barely see any tate influence in the young men I know. The older folks seem wildly misogynistic, in comparison.

And these aren't even just people from like orgs, I volunteer at high schools and professional associations with student wings (in a generally conservative industry) where I meet plenty of young people.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Minor downside of transitioning is I will no longer get to mog guys by having an iota of emotional intelligence. I'll just be "normal" or more likely deficient

[–] [email protected] 30 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Dating pre transition was definitely pretty easy because of how low the bar was for men but holy shit cishet dating dynamics and norms is so insanely stupid it makes me more than happy to deal with the much higher bar nowadays for wlw and lesbians

[–] [email protected] 35 points 2 months ago (2 children)

My hope is that nothing really changed for the worse, and it’s just that dating scenes are always dominated by men looking to score instead of get into a serious (and equitable) relationship.

Millennials had h3h3 and pewdiepie. I don’t think it meaningfully prevented those same viewers from a leftist turn if they were ever going to. Sometimes this shit just boils down to “kids can be dumb” and then they turn out fine after their prefrontal cortex finishes developing at 25.

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 2 months ago (3 children)

the articulated details are different, but the trend has generally been 5-15 years older guys with women in my lived experience since high school ended.

when I was in my 20s, my woman friends and colleagues my age were often in longer term relations with guys in their mid 30s. late 20s with 40s. and on and on.

I've never seriously dated someone that much younger. but as I've gotten older the pool of women expressing interest has gotten wider. which I attribute to appearing young for my age, but I'm sure there's more to it.

in my early 20s, it was non existent. which, looking back, I get lol. ignorant, insecure, no plan, shit-not-together.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 months ago

when will I be able to date with my shit-not-together ooooooooooooooh

[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Not bagging on you, but men mature late. People also tend to learn from experience and relationships in high school tend to be mutual torment in a lot of ways. Boys/men, being on the winning end of that, snap out of it later because they don’t see the problem until a few heartbreaks.

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

I wonder if these guys ever realize, I’m voicing someone else’s opinions and not even getting a crumb of pussy.

Need some sort deprogramming for these dudebros along the lines of: Defending another man’s ideas on a date? Letting ideology ruin a good chance with a girl. Gay as fuck bro. (Jk)

[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Funny part is.... You doing all this not only for someone that doesn't know you exist, but said on social media that having sex with a woman to feel good is gay and probably thinks a woman's orgasm is a myth. I don't even go that hard for my team and you out here ruining ya dates over this no chin having ass goof?

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 2 months ago (9 children)

Uh, what age range is Gen Z again? There are Gen Z's older than 19, right

Asking for a friend.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Millennials are basically 82-94 give or take a bit (hard cut of at 80 and 96 I'd say). The oldest zoomers are in their early late 20's early 30s at the most.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Damn, I really look good for my age.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

For some reason a lot of zoomers look way older than they should too but I can't say why.

Citation: https://youtu.be/WJG6L1tVZC0

[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 months ago

I was mostly joking because I initially read that as Millenials are 82-94 years old, which confused me until I figured it out.

But, yeah, very true about younger people looking much older. I do look much younger for my age though, or so women tell me to sooth my vanity.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I'm guessing it's the cyclical fashion, we are used to seeing people who looked like that 15-20 years ago and now they have same clothes but are 20 years younger. Like how everyone in the 1940s looked like they were born at age 35 with a mortgage and an ulcer because they all wore wool suits all the time.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

No, it's more that they were exposed to way worse air quality and they all smoked and drank and lived in homes made of lead and asbestos in between shifts at the racism factory. There were trucks driving down the nascent suburbs spraying deet in the air on all the kids playing on the lawns.

If you look up the poster for Cheers, season 1, everyone there is in their 30s

There's certainly Hollywoodification at work with unnaturally hot people being cast for everything now but also millennials wear sunscreen and grew up with far less environmental toxicity.

Gen Z on the other hand are growing up in the shadow of everyone on TV having several cosmetic procedures and they're shockingly common among members of the cohort. Vaping is also huge with them.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

As someone in his early 40s, watching old shows is such a disorienting experience. I was hate -watching Home Improvement recently and Tim Allen was always the “old dad” to me but I’m seeing him on screen and realizing I’m actually older than that person now. Bizarre feeling.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 months ago

They also drank and smoked from early on too

Just like Gen Z has energy drinks and vapes

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 months ago

The older zoomers are late 20s

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 months ago

can't help but laugh that these were the same people making fun of Arabs for being "misogynistic"

Colonizers always project

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 months ago

Unfortunately RP knob heads will use this against women. Pisses me off.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I think this may be a little overblown. "Gurus" offering the magic solution to teenage boys/young adults to get girls to notice them have been around for decades. A lot of these kids will grow out of it once they realise it doesn't actually work, and the "trick" is to just be understanding and empathetic.

That being said, I've got a friend in their early 20s and her dating experiences do seem to reflect this sort of thing, seems like at least 60% of guys on dating apps fall for this bullshit. Though it could be survivorship bias, they are gross creeps, so they don't get a girlfriend and thus remain on the app much longer than the guys who aren't total creeps.

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