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[–] [email protected] 58 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I can finally stop calling it GNU/Linux.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 4 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 24 points 4 months ago
[–] gamermanh 11 points 4 months ago

Oh good God, Linux is finally old enough to start rusting?! And on BOTH ENDS?

vigorously shakes can of WD-40

[–] [email protected] 33 points 4 months ago (2 children)

That's extremely unexpected.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The GNU utils weren't written by Canonical so they were doomed from the start.

[–] [email protected] 58 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Not to worry, they'll ship 'em via snap.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 4 months ago (2 children)
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[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago

More likely they will make them dependent on snap so you can't remove snap without breaking the system.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Because why? I can expect a very niche distro like Cachy do it but not a big project with a serious market share.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Canonical has a long history of doing wacky shit that nobody asked for though. Unity, upstart, snap, probably other things that I'm not thinking of

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago

Unity was great, though. Ubuntu took a hit going back to customized gnome

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

Unity at least didn't break anything, and you still had a choice in choosing desktop environment.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 4 months ago (4 children)

Wait is this their way to break compatibility with old binaries so that you're forced to use snap?

[–] [email protected] 28 points 4 months ago

They're steadily climbing the test suit:

test coverage

[–] [email protected] 20 points 4 months ago

The uutils should be compatible so I don't think so

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Check out our new Coreutils! (Snap required)

Seriously though I'm just imagining that Coreutils are now going to be dependent on snap.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

I don't think so unless they make their own rust core utils.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 4 months ago (4 children)

Is there any actual benefit ?

[–] [email protected] 49 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Code written in Rust has been shown to have significantly fewer security vulnerabilities than code written in C. Distributions like Ubuntu ship a lot of security updates, so by switching to Rust-based utils, they can reduce their workload in the long run.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 4 months ago

Ubuntu ship a lot of security updates

After introducing the Pro I don't think so.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

But looking at the security vulnerability records of gnu coreutils that wasn't really needed. There were like a handful in the last 15 years... So I don't really see a need or benefit here.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago (16 children)

It's been proven faster. That's all I personally know.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

Just security and hype afaik.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Well the rust project is MIT licensed, so definitely not.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I thought MIT licensing was a good thing?? What am i missing??

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

The success of FOSS can in large part be attributed to copyleft licenses like the GPL. Without the protections of copyleft clauses, software just gets exploited by large corporations and end users are locked out. For just one example, if GNU software had used MIT, the entire free router movement (i.e ddwrt, openwrt and co.) would probably not exist today.

See: Free Software Foundation, Inc. v. Cisco Systems, Inc..

Edit: actually, I think by the time of this specific lawsuit, the sources for wrt54g were already released after community pressure, this article details the history a bit better.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Rust is good, rare Ubuntu W. Now stop with the forced use of snaps.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago

You think this is a win, but is just another step in the enshittification.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 months ago (1 children)

What about licences and FOSS?

[–] [email protected] 22 points 4 months ago (1 children)

According to the video it's MIT licence, and they discuss the risk of such a licence vs coreutils usage of the GPL

[–] [email protected] 19 points 4 months ago

This worries me indeed.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Archlinux usually is a bit more reasonable. I don’t understand the forcing. Just makes me love it (archlinux) more!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago

This is the Linux community's Sophie's choice.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Literally why? Not even criticizing rust but the GNU core utils are easily some of the most reliable and documented software tools ever written.

Not to mention, looks like the rust core utils are MIT and not GPL.

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