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[โ€“] [email protected] 57 points 4 months ago (2 children)

The irony is that Beth pretty much set the standard for ambitious, weird and unexpected with Morrowind, and have been backing away ever since.

[โ€“] [email protected] 16 points 4 months ago (3 children)

The arc from Arena -> Daggerfall -> Morrowind really made it feel like they were mastering the recipe. Daggerfall is great for weird and ambitious too but not as approachable as Morrowind, and more or less kicking off modern modding is a big deal for Morrowind. Oblivion was a bit of a slump but felt like they could recover. Then Skyrim ๐Ÿ˜ž it's embarrassing

[โ€“] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago

Imma gonna fight ya all. Skyrim is a good game, even vanilla. For it's time. The rereleasing to infinity hurt it because people compared it to newer games.

It's not as deep as Morrowind/Oblivion, but it is a good game. Just aimed more at casuals.

[โ€“] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago

Skyrim you could at least argue nailed a sweet spot of customization and player freedom with simplicity for the normies.

Or maybe they just liked the race war subtext?

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

I think Quakeworld and Half-life probably deserve more of the credit for kicking off the modding community but Morrowind on PC definitely gave Xbox gamers something to be jealous of.

[โ€“] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago (4 children)

To be fair, it's hard to say what Bethesda has to offer when they haven't released anything since 2011. [checks wikipedia] Nope, nothing. Unless you count Fallout 4, which I wouldn't.

[โ€“] [email protected] 12 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Starfield was like a child's half-inflated balloon: let go with high hopes only to immediately disappoint, then swiftly forgotten once it drifted out of sight. Bethesda wanted to reach the stars, yet only managed to drop trash in someone's garden.

[โ€“] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago

Bethesda also claims to have released a ~~game~~ new instrumental album called Starfield.

Shame about the price tag and download size though.

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

As much as I like FO4 it's basically a total conversion mod of Skyrim.

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

Or Obsidian

[โ€“] [email protected] -2 points 4 months ago

Always has been.