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I'm starting to notice the half of Lemmy not federating with Hexbear is even more reactionary on average than I thought.

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[–] [email protected] 86 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Imagine if, during the American civil war, Britain came in just as the south was about to loose, and then burned down every single structure in the north and killed 20+% of the population. Then went on to tell everyone how the North were actually the bad guys.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 2 years ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 86 points 2 years ago

The “learn history!” In a completely ahistorical post is one of my favorite genres of posts

[–] [email protected] 86 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Say it with me now:

You can't invade your own country

[–] [email protected] 47 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Literally "The War of Northern Aggression" horseshit

[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Sweatie you don't understand, 2 US officers with no knowledge of the region just decided to arbitrarily divide it up to CREATE 2 countries (and have Japanese officials that had just fucked up the region govern the Southern one)

Perfectly normal stuff

[–] [email protected] 79 points 2 years ago (1 children)

never ask what was going on in the south when the north crossed the 38th parrallel

[–] [email protected] 32 points 2 years ago

Just because the regime lead by an ultranationalist nutball was killing everyone to the left of Hitler doesn't mean anything

[–] [email protected] 75 points 2 years ago (2 children)

The more I learn about actual history, the more I realize that History ™️ is a lot like relying on cops body cameras to learn what happened:

"repression by Syngman Rhee?"

cop Camera was switched off

"Jeju Uprising?"

cop Camera was blocked by my uniform

"When the South invaded the North?"

cop Camera was malfunctioning

"When the North continued south to liberate it?"

cop When they violently invaded without provocation? I guess it was just a loose connection 'cause we got great footage of that!

[–] [email protected] 41 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Jeju uprising

Looked that one up, and once again the forces established to fight them used a skull on their logo.

Real AreWeTheBaddies energy no matter if it's Ukraine or SKorea.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 2 years ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 30 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'm trying, man. It's just too depressing to listen to more than an episode a week.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Brace and Liz have had them on, do they talk about the skulls? What episode should I start with?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 years ago

Season 3 is about the Korean War.

Seasons 1 and 2 are about the Iraq War and the Cuban Revolution and Season 4 is about Afghanistan.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I listened to the first 2 eps and now took a break for a while, any tips on how I can get a quick refresher on what I've heard so far? I've forgotten who everyone is already

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I would support the North liberating the South even on the simple basis of the US colonial takeover of the latter. That said, did the South really invade first?

[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 years ago

Skirmishes. Lots of them. I think you'd enjoy the Korean War section of blowback. Or if that's not your slice of cake, they have a source material page so you can read the books yourself.

[–] [email protected] 66 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Amerikkka draws a big line down the middle of Korea with a crayon

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KOREA HAS INVADED ITSELF AND IT'S UP TO AMERIKKKA TO SAVE THEM FROM THEMSELVES BY

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INVADING, GIVING MONEY AND WEAPONS TO A FASCIST DICTATOR WHO COLLABORATED WITH THE JAPANESE, AND LEVELING ALL CITIES AND INFRASTRUCTURE IN THE NORTH AND PURGING SOCIALISTS/COMMUNISTS/ANARCHISTS FROM THE SOUTH AND TURNING THE SOUTH INTO A VASSAL STATE AND GLORIFIED UNITED STATES MILITARY BASE AND PRIVATIZING THEIR ECONOMY AND....

Liberals: This is progressive and defensive against proletarian imperialism!

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Amerikkka draws a big line down the middle of Korea with a crayon

This is reductive. The line wasn't unilaterally drawn by American troops, it was the agreed-upon meeting place for the US and Soviet allies. Then the US wouldn't play ball with organizing free and fair elections (they insisted on banning left-wing parties).

Far more productive in talking with Liberals is bringing up that North Korea was the higher GDP, higher life expectancy, and whatnot up until the 90s, and that it was

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The collapse of Soviet economic support and the end of the military junta in South Korea that is to blame for the DRPK's woes, not it's socialism.

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[–] [email protected] 49 points 2 years ago (1 children)

They probably also think the Irish invaded England

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[–] [email protected] 48 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

im gonna declare a new country called 'Sink TERF island' in Essex and claim England invaded it so america will go to war with england. Wish me luck!

[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Why not support a Welsh reconquista with the goal of deporting every blockhead to north-western Germany.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yes, liberate (N) Ireland, Wales, Scotland, and all the other territories from English invasion. ira

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[–] [email protected] 40 points 2 years ago

geordi-no "Invaded the South"

geordi-yes "Liberated the South"

[–] [email protected] 36 points 2 years ago (1 children)

They literally invaded for no reason. Just like the Fire Nation or the orcs of Mordor

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 2 years ago (1 children)

sad angry confused scrunchy face

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yeah they got pushed to the other big instances when we got ml and ee.

It would be cool to press into one that is pissed about it’s Nazi problem and wants to do something about it (beehaw, maybe blahaj).

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Both of those spaces literally don't want us there despite the fact that it's INCREDIBLY obvious that when you purge the left from your spaces you inevitably shift absolutely all participation in your space massively rightwards along with kicking out all the people who are actively involved and motivated to counter the far right.

They did this to themselves.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 years ago

history started in June 1950

[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Also this monstrous war by Wilfred G Burchett

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 years ago

uncritical support for the DPRK in its heroic struggle to liberate occupied Korea from the genocidal American empire

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