10 years ago people where claiming smart phones snooped on your conversations and they were called crazy.
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I literally told people this was going to happen and I was called 'paranoid'. Same people would probably tell me, "Oh it's not a big deal."
"If you've got nothing to hide you've got nothing to fear" (proceeds to shit with the door open)
I hate people who leave the fucking toilet door open
If nobody else is home it's fine though
Just happened to me yet again NYE
This happens with both Android and Apple. I've experienced this phenomena with both platforms and I've never had their respective voice assistants enabled. They quite literally just do whatever the hell they please. It is quite clear that they're listening in on everything. And $95M is literally a drop in the bucket to Apple. I guarantee they've made more off of this technology than they're being fined.
yet we have to ban tiktok bc "china will have our information"
Stallman was right.
Always has been
what did they say?
every device does this i have an android and my wife and i have tested it by talking about bogus shit like having a kid or needing diapers while we have social media apps open.
for the record we are barren and have no kids. but its starts serving you ads for formula and shit
been telling people this for like a decade and everyone in tech gets on the internet like a know-it-all and goes on about how its not true fucking fools
The uproar about tiktok was very telling. When the US gov starts throwing accusations, it's often projection.
If just one person's phone is listening, it can communicate to other devices using ultrasonic signals about what keywords were heard. This is why a lot of apps request mic/speaker access when they have no real reason to do so.
https://www.wired.com/story/ultrasonic-signals-wild-west-of-wireless-tech/
I convinced my wife to switch to Signal after a bunch of our Facebook Messenger comments got us targeted ads. It was pretty clear, we could just start a conversation about anything and end up with ads about that conversation.
It cleared up a lot of targeting we were both getting. She'd been complaining for ages that she was getting audio snooped too.
I had kind of have dismissed it because every time she would tell me about being surveilled, It would also be something she watched on TikTok or YouTube or saw on the news and I figured it was just her browser. She also complained about autocomplete having pretty strong precognition powers, But again you could tie it together pretty easily with previous searches.
Then one time, we're in the car. We had just been talking about going out for sushi We hadn't been for sushi in months. And she mentioned that she needed to take something back to a store way across town like 45 minutes away on the other side of the city.
She immediately ended up with an ad for a sushi place in that town.
Signal is CIA Proton too. And a bunch of VPNs are either CIA or Israeli intelligence
Signal is open source, and it's been reviewed by umpteen million individual researchers. If it's CIA they did a really shitty job at making it monitor you.
Where are y'all still seeing ads? I am dangerously online personally and professionally, and besides the inescapable host-reads I don't find myself interacting with ads. I'm currently dirtying up my ushanka by only using Hexbear for social media, so maybe I just have a weird bubble.
A lot of people just don't install adblockers because they were never taught that they exist. I seriously don't know how they're able to browse the internet, it's so off-putting.
My phone. I don’t know when the last time I saw an ad on my computer was, but 90% of my Internet use is from my phone
it's been pretty obvious for a while. Talk aloud around phones about needing a new car and suddenly your ads are all automobile related
I was talking to my friend about music, mentioned an artist (that she didn't know about) and showed her a song on my computer. 5 minutes later her video app on her phone was suggesting songs from that artist. It's completely ubiquitous, I operate under the assumption that I am always listened to.
my favorite shit is actually Smart TVs/Streaming services doing this.
I love walking into my friends' house while they're watching something on like Hulu or Netflix using the built-in app on their Smart TV and as soon as my phone has been connected to their wifi for more than 10 minutes they'll start getting insulin/diabetes drug ads because my fucking advertising footprint realized I've been a diabetic for 15+ years like right around the pandemic. Every time my friends are like "WHY DID THIS OZEMPIC/METFORMIN/ETC AD PLAY NOT FIVE MINUTES AFTER YOU CAME IN?!?!" and each time I'm like "you should install pihole plus I'm not even a type 2 so that shit is useless to me lemme know when you get a insulin pump ad".
ITT: nobody that understands what confirmation bias is
The title is misleading as well. The article states a few times that there is no tangible evidence, just people that saw ads and thought it must be because they were listened in on. And Apple making a deal instead of letting a jury decide.
Additionally, the article says it’s through accidental Siri activations. Which, while bad, are not unexpected and you can disable that if you want.
There’s still no hard evidence that they’re always listening. It’s not impossible, it’s just improbable and impractical. And the risk for Apple, especially as they market themselves as a privacy-focused product, is much greater than the gain of a few dollars to show you an extra targeted ad.
It’s like people really want it to be true or something?
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Relevant video from 8 years back: https://youtu.be/U0SOxb_Lfps
I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy: