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Why couldn't I have been born in a saner time

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Ah ah ah but didn't you know CHINA pollutes more than USA? Disregard the fact half the world outsourced all their production to China to cut down labor costs for porky

[–] [email protected] 40 points 8 months ago (2 children)

or that China has a massive population and pollutes WAY LESS per capita, the metric that actually matters if you're not a malthusian nationalist

[–] [email protected] 30 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

also those metrics are almost always hiding a giant elephant in the corner which fucks the scales entirely


because the Department of "Defense" and their global imperial-behemoth-without-compare military lobbies to not be included in metrics and regulations and climate agreements, and where they are included they bury and manipulate and launder data, to hide that the US military is the single largest institutional consumer of petrochemicals, and #1 institutional emitter of greenhouse gases worldwide


more than the total emissions of 140 countries.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Also the majority of what we classify as green energy in the west isn't green, it's just cooking the books until it looks green

[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

yeah, electric vehicles and stuff could theoretically help by centralizing the energy to efficient source points for gathering and storing the energy (which is still fossil fuels which people forget often) which is used for charging batteries (disposal then becomes its own things, as well as mineral components), rather than just dumping gas and oil on an individual level into every vehicle large and small, efficient and grotesque, and all the idiot consumptive stuff like lawn mowers (which pollute way worse than cars because there's no regulation and the engines are much less efficient);

But the US doesn't and won't have that, because its energy sector is owned by 'decentralized-centralized' monopolies (a bunch of shells and subsidiary daughter companies owned by the same people, for book-cooking of course, legally and financially), whose sole goal is profit and increasing consumption in general. China has the capability to do this 'centralization-for-efficiency' transition to cut emissions; but the US not only won't, but is incapable of doing so without completely smashing and overturning its entire structure of economy, and the political structures which grow out of it.

In short:
EL PROBLEMA ES EL CAPITALISMO

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago

I was actually talking about the whole biofuel scam, but also what you're saying yes

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago

Did some back of the napkin math the other day about exactly this. When the US flew B-2s from Australia to bomb Yeman. An insane thing to do by any metric and certainly by any green metric. But we just really had to bomb those Yemanis ok?

[–] [email protected] 29 points 8 months ago

Or that China installed more solar in 2023 than the US has in its entire history, while both Biden and Harris have bragged about how the US is drilling more oil than any point in its history.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

The western world trying to defend tariffs on electric vehicles from China that would very clearly make electric cars a possibility for regular workers is one of the most mask-off evil things I've seen.

(I know these countries engage on blood-soaked Imperialism but honestly the body count from that stuff is going to be a rounding error compared to the deaths they're going to cause from climate change.)

[–] [email protected] 19 points 8 months ago

Furthermore it is the ultimate example of the so-called “free market’s” hypocrisy.

The government literally intervening to help out rich people at the expense of the working class. Meanwhile there are no such punishments for offshoring jobs or replacing workers with ai.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 8 months ago

Plan on running my current car into the ground, but once it's time for a new one I would love to be able to purchase a BYD Dolphin. I commute by myself. I don't need a big car, I just want to get to work cheaply and without destroying the environment any more than necessary.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 8 months ago (1 children)

This is the mentality of coal rollers, summarized.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 8 months ago (1 children)

As you can see by my username. I grew up in the South and dealt with this all the time.

A couple of years ago , I told someone I worked in the green tech industry and he threatened to slit my throat right there.

I'm applying to PhD programs out of the country and I'm really far into one interview process.

Comrades, you need to know how to protect yourself. Even if you live somewhere safe or escaping to somewhere safe these people will try to come after you. Protect yourself and your loved ones. You can't reason with the unreasonable.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 8 months ago

Damn this meme literally happened to you

[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago

probably byd

[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago
[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago

I have no idea what teslas look like tbh

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago (1 children)

There was a community note on this meme on twitter, that China creates x amount of greenhouse gas (ignoring per capita and that they make stuff for the world) and that they have built so many new coal plants (not great, but they are also leading on coal carbon capture at the site of the plant, reforestation and all other renewable sources, sometimes having back up coal is necessary even it sucks)

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago

They've also shifted from constructing coal plants to focusing on green energy. Meanwhile the west is uhhhh talking about maybe making a commission that can investigate the possibilities of...

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Shouldn't the US be the child. Chronologically speaking.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 8 months ago (1 children)

PRC is much younger than USA

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

China isn't tho. There's continuity between the Chinese republic that exists today and the kingdom of the Yellow Emperor

[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago

We are talking about green energy fam. Something that only existed during the PRC. Couldn’t tell you what the Yellow Emperor’s take on nuclear is