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Greta Thunberg named ‘Antisemite of the Week’ by "StopAntisemitism" after latest arrest at anti-Israel protest (hexbear.net)

submitted 9 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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She joined pro-Palestinians just days after Oct. 7, posting a photo of herself holding a sign reading “Stand with Gaza” — alongside a toy octopus, which some read as an allusion to the Nazis’ antisemitic propaganda visualizing Judaism’s supposed network of control over the world.

Octopus is Khamas.

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[–] [email protected] 71 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Zionists who conflate being against genocide as being against Jews really are telling on themselves aren't they

[–] alvvayson 40 points 9 months ago

TIL it is anti-semitic to be against genocide.

[–] [email protected] 48 points 9 months ago

They have completely turned this phrase into meaningless drivel.

This is annoying because it gives real antisemites free capability to say so much more than they ever could before.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 9 months ago (3 children)

[–] [email protected] 22 points 9 months ago

data-laughing

[–] [email protected] 22 points 9 months ago

slammer

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Is the original image generated or is it a shop of a real dunk?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago

don't know, it's by SLAMMER

[–] [email protected] 37 points 9 months ago

pflp-octoplushie

[–] [email protected] 35 points 9 months ago

See this is funny because the venn diagram for "hates Greta Thunberg" and "thinks that (((they)))))))))) are resonsible for everything" might as well be a circle where I'm from.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 9 months ago

she is becoming more based by the day

[–] [email protected] 21 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The octopus is so fucking dumb because the nazis and americans both depticted communists as octopus. It's a common propaganda motif

[–] [email protected] 20 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Zionists and antisemites go in the barbara-pit together

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago (1 children)

same-picture

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago

it's a pretty round venn diagram for sure

[–] [email protected] 17 points 9 months ago

How is framing being against a genocide in this manner not seen as the real antisemitism?

[–] [email protected] 17 points 9 months ago

Good for her! I'm not holding my breath that she will suddenly embrace communism or anything, but it sure isn't everyone who ended up on the right side of this one from the beginning.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Famously hateful to people based on their inheritance Greta Thunberg who made a name for herself by blaming climate change on left handed people. The incurious, unthinking teenager who never once considered the opinions of scientists and historians, Greta Thunberg became at odds with the well-loved mainstream when she disagreed with their rhetoric that was responsive to the desires of their base.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago

I thought BMF had been banned.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago

It's deeply fucked up how a bunch of apartheid enjoyers get to trick people into associating everything Jewish with apartheid enjoyment.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago

They’re still doing the octopus shit? Shame to hear the people on my block with it on their dash are all antisemitic

[+] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago (4 children)

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 9 months ago (1 children)

cringe you don't have to do that, just reject the dichotomy. Antisemitism is still a real thing it's not like anti-Italian bigotry or whatever, and we still have to be wary of letting antisemites use the left to carry their vile hatred, even when Palestinian genocide is such an enormous problem that it warps the importance of other problems.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I see it the same way as "terrorist." Terrorism is obviously not good, but when resistance is defined as terrorism, then anyone who resists imperialism is definitionally a terrorist.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago

Those might be comparable in the sense that if someone called me a terrorist, I'd sooner try to challenge the assumptions that led them to make the claim than the claim itself because I understand why they'd call me a terrorist (or an antisemite) but I believe those reasons are frivolous and easily dismissed. But I'd be much more careful trying to lean into being called an antisemite, when called a terrorist I might say "and I'd fly those planes into the towers again" but I would never say something similar when called an antisemite.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 9 months ago

refuse-the-question

[–] [email protected] 21 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

they can say lots of things, reject framing and spit on fools

(it's akin to agreeing to questions of "would you say n-word to save your family", there are no comic book villains around)

P.S. What it does imply though, you can't take so and so is an anti-semite as being true judgement. Before corbyn, i would very unlikely to pursue the truth of somebody called that, and put them into the ignore box. Now that check of "anti-semitism" requires some verification (or more trustworthy than adl/government source)

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Hasn't Roger Waters been getting called an antisemite for ages for the same things as Corbyn?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Yes, but he did kinda weird thing at one concert which for me was enough to put him in a box of (heart in right place, but might be perceived antisemitic).

But I think I looked into it during corbyn saga, because I try not to pay attention to what celebs think or do. Some of them might support my positions, some will not, what exactly does that bring me (unless it’s like laser focused on the fan of the group/person/team, who is simultaneously unaware of their positions), they are celebs, random people politics wise, famous for other talents

[–] [email protected] 16 points 9 months ago

refuse-the-question

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago (2 children)

This is only making feel weird about not caring about anti-semitism any more. They watered down the brand. When someone actually does some real antisemitism I will have to remind myself to get mad about it because the term is meaningless now.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Its the 2 years of ignoring black suns, swastikas and SS insignia on Ukrainian soldiers followed up by a whole year of freaking out about octopi plushies

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

The term "anti-Jewish racism" is more clear and there's no ambiguity whether the usage is referring to resistance against apartheid.