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[–] [email protected] 23 points 11 months ago (1 children)

This is not a joke: I had a coworker say almost this exact thing to me a month ago, and just last week he discovered that he has gout because he eats steak every day.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

we used to have someone go through the carnism subreddit and post all the greatest hits to the vegan comm.

bloodmouths are not ok

edit: here's one of the posts marx-ok

[–] [email protected] 23 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I did start caring more about animals after I went vegan. I was never frying ants for fun, but I also never got sad about petting zoos, for example.

So hey, maybe it’s more common that people adopt a moral system that makes meat seem less like food no matter how they start out.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yes, of course that would be the case.

We come pre-built with a TON of instinct that initially drives our behaviour but we can override those with some information and effort by our big brains.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago

Perhaps I should have said it differently. After decades of being a vegetarian, I went plant-based for the environment, then fairly quickly went vegan, because I started caring about animals a lot more.

I don’t know if that’s just as obvious, but I was definitely surprised.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (7 children)

What's non-vegan about pasta?

Semolina flour and water? Is that not the ultimate vegan food?

[–] [email protected] 15 points 11 months ago (2 children)

May I introduce you to the concept of cheese?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago

I mean, that's added to the pasta after, the pasta itself is just flour and water, cooked in salt water.

Whatever you do to it AFTER THAT, well, that's on you. ;) I personally don't do cheese. Not vegan or lactose intolerant, I just don't like cheese.

There are plenty of pasta sauces that don't involve meat, dairy or eggs.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Flour, water and egg yolks.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Most dried pasta is vegan, though. Unless specifically buying egg pasta.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I wouldn't have ever checked the ingredients on dried pasta if you didn't tell me this. Thanks.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

You're welcome! I don't know why it's so uncommon knowledge that pasta is just 2 ingredients, but this isn't the first occurrence I told someone that didn't know :P

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago

I think my blood is 50% noodles by now, I frickin love pasta.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I think OP was referring to what goes ON said pasta

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

A lot of pasta sauces have butter in them, personally my favorite pasta sauce is a homemade tomato sauce by Alton Brown (https://altonbrown.com/recipes/pantry-friendly-tomato-sauce/ ), it's vegan even though I'm not.

I usually do a double batch once a month (more or less, depends on how quick we use it) and it fills up 3 32 oz mason jars with 4-8 oz extra. It's amazing on pasta, pizza, eggs, burgers, meatballs, pretty much anything that's good with tomato. Cheaper and tastier than buying jarred tomato sauce by far, plus you can make it as chunky or smooth as you want by how much you blend it. Only costs a few bucks to make too.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

I make Chef John's tomato sauce which is not vegan as it has anchovies but could be made so by skipping them. It is delicious.

While I do like a good pasta with just tomato sauce, I tend to love more complex ones most of which have something else in it that is not vegan unfortunately. Pasta itself would contain eggs (maybe dried pasta uses some vegan friendly substitute?)

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

You forgot cheese?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

If you cut out all of the pastas that have eggs, cheese, butter, milk, meat, shellfish, or fish (anchovies) then you’re cutting out the vast majority of restaurant pastas and the majority of pasta recipes you’ll find in recipe books unless they’re specifically vegan (restaurants or books).

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I'm talking about the pasta itself, not the finished dishes. What you do to the pasta after it's cooked is where the non-vegan part comes in.

The noodles themselves? Wheat flour and water.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The finished dish is called pasta. The basic component you’re talking about is noodles.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

many sauces require some sort of meat, cheese or other animal products (eggs, etc)

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

That's not the fault of the pasta though. ;)

[–] [email protected] 13 points 11 months ago

Skill issue

[–] [email protected] 11 points 11 months ago

Depends how you handle it! I live off a diet of party poppers and fireworks, and I think it's a blast.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago

There are literally a thousand ways you can make vegan pasta lmao

[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago

Skill issue

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

Cheese breath found

Opinion -> discarded

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

@bridge nothing as fun as abusing animals ammirite

[–] 5714 3 points 11 months ago

GIVE ME THE PIZZA, PRECIOUS

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Marinara pizzas are awesome. And I'm not even vegan

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Vegetarian diet could be animal cruelty free.

[–] ArcaneSlime -2 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Not according to vegans, simply collecting eggs or milk is "abuse" and "rape" I'm told.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Personally, I don't see how forcibly impregnating cows and then taking their newborns away as soon as they are born in order to ensure we get all the milk could be considered cruel. Everyone knows that all non-human animals are simply automata with no ability to experience emotions. Cows, like dogs or cats, have no ability to feel so we can do anything we want to them.

Also, veal couldn't exist without our wonderful dairy industry. Think of all those veal steaks you'd get rid of without the newborn males to slaughter from the dairy industry.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Apparently tons of deer are killed to prevent them from reaching fruit crops... no diet is 100% animal cruelty free

[–] [email protected] 14 points 11 months ago

I punch a dog whenever I eat a salad, just in case.