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Screenshot of social media post. Reads, "Everyone was saying that the May geomag activity had no impact on the satellites. Of course we knew this was wrong. Over one hundred sats re-entered during this period and now a paper is showing that thousands of Starlinks had to move. Holy fuck. Imagine if those thousands had to re-enter. This. Is. Insane. We. Must. Stop. Launching. Shit. NOW. https://spaceweather.com/"

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Would they have the Mass to do any damage?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

That's an excellent question. Also, does any of it need to make it to the ground to do harm to our atmosphere? Needs more research. Prof. Lawler has a whole thing on it: https://mastodon.online/@[email protected]/112768381105263805

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

Also, does any of it need to make it to the ground to do harm to our atmosphere?

Intuitively the answer would be no, since effects on the atmosphere should be greater from directly in the atmosphere. Is there any reason to assume that ground contact would be required?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Starlink sats are tiny - only ~260kg each. Even thousands re-entering would be comparable to what Earth naturally experiences from meteoroids (about 48 tons daily). The aluminium/composite materials aren't particularly exotic or harmful when they vaporize in the upper atmopshere. It's a non-issue compared to actual space debris concerns.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

Night sky is gonna be lit then.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)

what does she mean by "re-entered"? does it mean "burned in the atmosphere"? if so, i don't really see the problem.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 11 months ago (1 children)

As I understand it, and that understanding could be flawed, burning up a lot of satellites containing a lot of substances not usually found in our upper atmosphere may have consequences. No-one has done the due diligence to know whether this is the case or not. Or if these consequences would be significant for us.

Also, "re-entered" might not mean burning up fully.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 11 months ago (2 children)

No-one has done the due diligence to know whether this is the case or not.

so lets maybe not raise the god of apocalypse. these satellites are really small objects, their volume is absolutely insignificant to the bullshit we create down here on the sea level...

[–] [email protected] 11 points 11 months ago

Agreed. This would be in line with the many meteor showers we have... which arguably could contain more "unknown" substances than what we mined out of our own crust.

This feels a bit more like a bit of fear mongering than actual reporting / science.

There are many reasons to be concerned with what we have in orbit... this isn't one of them.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I hardly think a post by some random (me) is "raising the god of the apocalypse". But that's sweet of you to say <3

And you are correct that there are significant other issues, with known effects, that need to be addressed as well.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago

I hardly think a post by some random (me) is “raising the god of the apocalypse”.

i meant the hysterical "This. Is. Insane. We. Must. Stop. Launching. Shit. NOW. "

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago

Have you compared it to the amount of meteors that enters the earth’s atmosphere daily? That’s on average 48.5 tons. Every day. Those are made up of silicates, carbon, metals, all kinds of stuff.