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[–] [email protected] 99 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Also, Hitler had to declare a state if emergency to gain the absolute power the Supreme Court has just handed to the US president.

Suffice it to say, something lile this is impossible now in Germany. The justices of our highest court, the Bindesverfassungsgericht, can only hold the job for 12 years and can be no older than 68. They are also always equally voted in by two different branches of the government and need a two thirds majority for any decision.

Our democracy isn't without faults, but this is probably our strongest bulwark against another descent into facsism.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Let's hope it holds up against the AFD

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

I think Trump will declare a state of emergency as soon as people will riot against his unjust laws. Project 2025 has something about deploying the military against the population to force through deeply unpopular laws.

[–] [email protected] 74 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Hitler was appointed chancellor by Hindenburg. He wasn't voted in by the people.

[–] [email protected] 64 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (11 children)

Even setting aside the bit of history where the SDP party rallied around Hindenburg because of their deep and abiding fear of the Evil Russian Backed KDP party (god damn, everything old really is new again), there were three different elections from July of '32 to March of '33. The Nazis took 37% of the seats in July, dipped down to 32% in November, and then jumped to 43% the following March.

And then, what really kicked off martial law was the Reichstagg fire, which was blamed on Tankie Antifa Far-Left Communists and used to justify a Nazi-lead state of martial law. Liberals, Conservatives, and Fascists all united under a single banner in their staunch hatred of German Communism.

This was decades after German military police and Freikorps paramilitary groups under Hindenburg crushed the Spartacus League during the 1919 strike wave. The leaders of the movement - Rosa Luxemburg, Karl Liebknecht, and Franz Mehring - were executed by the police and the organizations disbanded under threat of further imprisonment/execution.

This, in comparison to the Beer Hall Pustch four years later, in which Hitler's band of low-ranking military officers were tossed in the drunk tank for nine months, before returning to politics and rapidly climbing the ranks on the basis that he'd been martyred by (((bad Germans))) who secretly controlled the government.

Gotta wonder how this compares to the 2014 BLM protests, the subsequent police crackdown, and then the string of BLM leadership "suicides" where members of the movement shot themselves in the head right before being incinerated in their cars. Or the widespread bipartisan/corporate efforts to suppress labor activism in the rail, shipping, and Amazon distribution centers, the automotive industry, and the Starbucks-centric food service sectors.

Or the feeble efforts by US government officials to arrest/convict J6ers, the hand-slap sentencing of Alex Jones and Steve Bannon, and the stubborn refusal to federally prosecute Donald Trump.

Oh well, anyways!

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah we have a lot more in common with pre third Reich Germany than people want to talk about and it's not just a voting for a crazy shouting lunatic thats making the comparison so eerily similar.

The staunch refusal to try and go left and actually make things better and give people to rally behind is gonna do a lot of the heavy lifting of moving people to the right and it's not appreciated or understood by the people who make the memes about voting for Biden regardless of anything.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

That does depend on who is making those memes. The bad faith propaganda meant to further divide the population targets all sides of all issues and it's another very divisive issue. Any time I see someone making what should be a good point but in a way that will instead increase resistance, I suspect that's what's going on. It's not a certain way to determine if that's happening; anyone who has read How to Win Friends and Influence People knows that our instincts about persuasion are bad even before any bad faith is involved.

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[–] [email protected] 62 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The price good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men. — Plato

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago

Just ask my slaves. Gods, I love slavery. - Plato

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[–] [email protected] 61 points 1 year ago (10 children)

Imagine having a political opponent you consider equal to Hitler and choosing Joe Biden as the candidate you run against him.

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 year ago

“dOnT cArE, nOt VoTiNg”

-hexbear

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It didn't just take "Hitler's death" for Germans to be able to vote again. It wasn't a case of "oh look, he's dead, now we can go back to democracy". It took over a decade of political terror and violence, a devastating world war, and one of the most organised campaigns of mass murder and genocide in history.

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago (5 children)

So weird to think that that all went down in 14 years. 2010 doesn't seem that long ago.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago

If they survived that is.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (36 children)

Yeah, and he went away not because they voted him out but thanks to Soviet weapons.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago (14 children)

Who allied up with the Nazis to invade Poland?

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (5 children)

And American weapons. Let's not pretend that the USSR fought alone.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (4 children)
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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This is not a shitpost.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago

The first NSDAP government came into being in 1930, in Thuringia. It toppled a left-wing government with a broad alliance of liberals, conservatives and right-wing extremists. Today, a center-left government is still in power in Thuringia, but in a tolerated minority government that is dependent on the votes of the other parties. In a few months, it will most likely be voted out by another one. The liberal, conservative and far-right parties are already using their majority to jointly push through laws against the government. An extreme right-wing party will probably become the strongest force and as such will be able to do a lot of damage, even without government participation.

There are already areas where only right-wing candidates are running and right-wing conservatives are the most left-wing option.

Perhaps history will repeat itself this year.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If they're trying to convince Republicans to vote against Trump then they've chosen the wrong argument.

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[–] RecluseRamble 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

That's just a bit over 3 legislative periods. Hardly enough for anything significant to happen.

Edit: Just two hours passed and Poe's Law struck again.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How long until Coles Law?

(I am very hungry)

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

So just 14 years, a world war, a holocaust, and an aftermath which still leads to new wars until today?

Yeah I think I’ll just be watching a couple of Netflix documentaries on Nov. 5th. Those are crazy, right?

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