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[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Maybe, but I think that the branding of the "fediverse" + difficulty of use will make it unlikely to surpass reddit or any other alternatives. It will almost certainly still be around for years to come, but I doubt it'll be much more than niche, despite me hoping for the contrary.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

I’m having fun here and it’s scratching my online discussion itch. I’ve barely been back to Reddit and when Apollo dies I think I will not go back at all. 16 years on Reddit and almost 300K karma.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Define "a few weeks"

The blackout started 12-06 which is 2 + weeks ago.

Lemmy and Kbin are still here and I see no sign of it slowing down. I see much more posts with more engagement which is a good thing.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

It's been going for 4 years now. I think the worst case scenario is it falls back to the numbers it had before this reddit incident.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

The Fediverse will live on as long as two people want to share content. Users ebb like waves on the shore, and the sea level is rising.

I didn't have Twitter, but moved back into the Fediverse once that imploded. I had another account years ago but it was too quiet. Mastodon's growth has been crazy to watch. I suspect Lemmy will be an echo of that, maybe this time or at some point in the future. It's no matter, though. The Fediverse is slow social media, which is a good thing.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

I'd favour Lemmy for mass adoption in the long run, mostly because Twitter was never actually that big, and people can just microblog on Facebook or Tiktok. Reddit has far more users that might want to look at alternatives and their realistic options today are this or Tildes, who doesn't seem to actually want most people to join.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

I think it will grow some more when apps stop working on July 1, especially lemmy.world.

After that, we’ll see how erratic and Musk-esque the reddit leadership becomes.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

We'll have to wait and see but I think this last issue with Reddit has given Lemmy enough of a boost that it will get the required amount of momentum.

It won't be long before a lot of the classic subs are reproduced over here and new users will be able to turn up and slot straight in and carry on doing what they were doing over there all pretty seamlessly.

It would be interesting to know what percentage of the most active posters made the jump as they are likely providing a much higher percentage of the content than the average user. It's those people that will really make a difference.

I also think having Fediverse alternatives to so much corporate social media and how well it cooperates with each other is also key. I am busy moving myself over to these services and I am liking what I see. It will always occupy a layer under the corporate one but that might be a good thing - like them act as the bullet magnet and let us just get in with things.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

Will definitely loose some users because of small things that come with using something like this. At the end of the day, people are attached and will go back to reddit. That doesn't mean though, that there won't still be a bunch of people using lemmy.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

Lemmy isn't going to "die" anytime soon, it has already been around for about 4 years now, it's not going anywhere..

Maybe activity will significantly slow down, maybe it will go back to being a super small community, but I don't see it completely getting killed anytime soon.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

While I plan on using this platform for the forseeable future - I don't have too high hopes.

I think it will probably go the way Mastodon is going. A few weeks of being "hot", then dropping off until it's pretty much business as usual, as it was before being the hot new thing. Don't get me wrong, I want Lemmy to succeed and replace reddit, but I wouldn't bet money on it.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

I'm interested to see the outcome of Reddit, since I've been there for almost a decade, but I'm kinda liking the change to lemmy and I definitely don't support Reddit's decisions or direction. I think I'm going to stay here and delete my Reddit account once I see the results of the 30th

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Aslong as I can shit post and talk about video game development I don't care where I am

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Give me a good Bethesda hot take, please.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

Lemmy will definetly last! I hope so at least. it might never go mainstream, but that a good thing.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

I hope it lasts, maybe not with a huge number of users but I can live with that.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I'm confident that the Fediverse will last. Sure, there's a lot of challenges with having nodes that can choose to not federate with each other; However, a large majority should federate over time so there can be cross-collaboration. At its worst case, we'll have some segmented nodes that, while unfederated, will still foster good communities. Nodes will come and go.

While these large, centralized services for social media exist, people will always gravitate toward convenience. Unless catastrophe strikes, Reddit, Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, etc. will always exist. But the fediverse gives us choice in a system where we generally had no choice but to use those platforms. After all, the alternative was old Forums that still had a solid userbase while other Forums collapsed and disappeared. If you provide a similar or better service to centralized services that is also convenient and user-friendly, then people will join the fediverse.

At the moment it is nascent, complex, and requires some confidence. Things that seem simple such as searching for another Community on another instance and joining it can be difficult for users to grasp. Over time this will get better.

Having grown up alongside the internet in its infancy, I've been very appreciative to experience the way in which it has changed over time. We're seeing another gradual shift, and a massive user base will associate with the fediverse. It's not going anywhere, but it certainly will never topple these massive corporations that have invested heavily into centralizing power, capturing the regulators and markets, and establishing themselves as information cartels that feast on the flow of money in the economy (read: parasitic leeches).

At the end of the day, I couldn't care less about these other social media platforms. I've embraced decentralization and am having a blast here with the fediverse. It reminds me of the earlier days of the internet. I'm excited to see where this evolves and also watch it grow.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

I'm staying

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

I would like to think this is my new home, but I still have a lot of learning to do about the fediverse. I won't be going back to Reddit and using their garbage app and site, but I also still need to learn how to maneuver this new land before it can be a true alternative for me

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

I belive that enough critical mass has been reached for Lemmy to stick around. I sure as hell am not going back to reddit. But, to see Lemmy grow, I feel it would be better for users to be spread out across multiple instance.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Mastodon is there. And there are enough people to interact with. Not as big as Twitter by any means, but for now it's big enough to use if you find a good Community.

Lemmy would be similar, for now won't even come close to reddit size. But if good communities move here those would stick around.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

I intend to be here for the long run, and I don’t think I’m alone in that mentality.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Voat, a previous Reddit competitor, managed to survive for years, even though it attracted a much more niche audience than Lemmy.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

I'm here for the long haul. Reddit was simultaneously the best and worst of the internet, Fediverse seems to be prioritising the best. Now that the apps are starting to hit the public, there's no going back.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Define die. It's been slowly growing for the last 3 years. If it goes back to that it's still good.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

It won't die in "a few weeks", simply because the likelihood of everybody abandoning ship in such a short timeframe is pretty much zero.

It will almost certainly become irrelevant after some years (we just don't know how many) because almost nothing remains relevant on the Net for more than a decade or two, though even "irrelevant" things still attract a few people so they rarelly "die".

Edit: Also and as a side note, I've actually been questioning just how many people needs to be around here for it to be a good place to be in. I don't think the "millions" of people of Reddit actually added to it and suspect that a few tens of thousand of users are enough for the place to feel interesting to be in and participate in, except perhaps in very obscure and niche subjects were you do need millions of people around for there to be a handful that are interested in such subjects.

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