this post was submitted on 15 Aug 2023

140 points (97.9% liked)

Fediverse

36676 readers

471 users here now

A community to talk about the Fediverse and all it's related services using ActivityPub (Mastodon, Lemmy, KBin, etc).

If you wanted to get help with moderating your own community then head over to [email protected]!

Rules

Posts must be on topic.
Be respectful of others.
Cite the sources used for graphs and other statistics.
Follow the general Lemmy.world rules.

Learn more at these websites: Join The Fediverse Wiki, Fediverse.info, Wikipedia Page, The Federation Info (Stats), FediDB (Stats), Sub Rehab (Reddit Migration)

founded 2 years ago

MODERATORS

[email protected]

140

Would there be interest and support in potentially building an art focused lemmy instance? (literature.cafe)

submitted 2 years ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

36 comments fedilink hide all child comments

cross-posted from: https://literature.cafe/post/462140

I've noticed a lot of people complain that niche communities aren't really all that present here or are difficult to find. Having some consolidated in specific instances is very helpful for discovery as well as spreading the federation around.

I started with literature.cafe (and am sticking with literature.cafe, obviously! That's not going anywhere!) But last night I was looking at potential domains and was curious about what an art focused lemmy instance could be potentially called. I managed to snag lemmyloves.art for very very cheap, but I came to the realization as the morning came that not only is making an instance only as useful as the people who desire to use it... I currently pay for my own out of pocket and if I'm making another instance alongside this one it needs to be able to last long term.

I have the time, energy and ability to build the instance and manage it with similar principles that literature.cafe currently has (albeit slightly different to address the needs of art) but it's just a matter of knowing if people will actually be willing to use it and if support for it would be a possibility. I can pay for literature.cafe out of pocket right now no problem, but hosting another instance that I feel very likely may need to be scaled up later on is kind of iffy thing for me to commit to right now. As well as the likelihood of it needing a team as well, knowing if there would be anyone interested in helping moderate as well would be helpful as well

Just generally curious what peoples thoughts are. I think back to the lemmy dev ama and one of the devs saying they wanted a "ravelry" focused instance to spring up lmao

all 40 comments

sorted by: hot top controversial new old

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I personally would love it, that's basically what I've given up when I came to the Fediverse. Especially Instagram, my whole feed was just art.

[+] [email protected] 16 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

[deleted]

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

I think starting off on lemmy and potentially branching off to pixelfed might be a good starting point. Pixelfed is very very very much in its infancy, even compared to lemmy

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago

I’ve been thinking that lemmy might have something to contribute to the space and that we need not just defer to pixelfed for all things image based.

I haven’t really used pixelfed, but I’d imagine the greater scope for writing longer posts in markdown here, the well known Reddit like format, organisation provided by the community structure, and, even, maybe the better interop with Peertube, all provide the basis for a good way to show and share art content.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Is there a reason to make it an instance instead of just creating a community (or communities - beware of branching out too much with a small user base, though) on an existing one?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It's better to have instances (so long as they can exist long term) that have niche focuses as they tend to attract users in those niches and it spreads things out across the federation. Right now a lot of people are just crowding their communities on general purpose instances and that's just not healthy whatsoever for the fediverse

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Why/not? Also, are those drawbacks, whatever they are, enough to offset the drawbacks of actually hosting and managing a whole instance?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

Yes. Very much so. Having things centralized on lemmy.world has already caused a slew of issues.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'm surprised that this doesn't exist already. There's terefere.eu - "Arts & history instance", but it seems to be down at the moment so I can't see more details. There's also crystals.rest - "A general instance for livestreaming, anime, and retro art!", but that's just for one specific type of art.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Ikr! I'll see if I can get the funds somehow to spin up the initial cost of the server, we will see though

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

Don't stretch yourself too thin, though. Might be something to back-burner if money is tight.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago

Yes, do it.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I’ve been enjoying [email protected] , [email protected] and [email protected] here and thinking the same thing! Lemmy works quite well as an image board IMO.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

There is also [email protected] and there are a few imaginary network communities starting up.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

Awesome thanks!!

Can’t wait for multi-communities to land so that I can have them all in one spot. Could use multiple accounts for that, but I’m lazy.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

A bit late - but here is the current list of imaginary communities:

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Oh wow ... I didn't know these were all out there!!

Ummm ... we really need multi-communities!!

Thanks so much!!

You should post this list to the new communities community so more can know about them (even though they may not be so new)!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

How new is new? Most of these have been around for two months or so now.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

Yea, I figured. I think there should be a kind of "TIL" for communities, as in a place to share newly discovered communities that aren't popular enough that many would know of them. And at this point I'd be happy to co-opt the new-communities community for that.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

New account, but the imaginarykanto link there doesn't work for me? I'm confused.

Did I pick the wrong server or something? Rather new to kbin.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

OP is using the /c/ link format which does not work in Kbin (which you're on)

The correct way to link communities cross-everything is like [email protected] ([[email protected]](/c/[email protected])) yet people still think /c/ is anything but an implementation detail (as they're accustomed to Reddit's /r/)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

I have updated the post with that format of link @[email protected] you should be able to use them all now if ShittyKopper is correct.

This list was made by someone else and copied, I think I understand why they did it that way though - you can't format those links nicely, the following doesn't work: * [Imaginary Kanto]([[email protected]](/c/[email protected])) Looking like this (tries to link to a post or something?:

Imaginary Kanto

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Ahhh that makes sense. Thanks for the explanation! Still learning Kbin. It's more complicated than eg. Mastodon.

[+] CrypticFawn 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

[deleted]

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

An instance dedicated to art and art focused things would help spread the federation out and attract users who are focused primarily on art. It's really not a good idea to put everything on one instance. It's a thing that occurs on the fediverse, outside of specific instances there are niche and hobby focused instances that attract a lot of people. Everyone is just crowding all their communities into the general purpose instances and that's not really how the fediverse is intended to work.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 years ago

Yeah I’ve really loved the culture of niche instances like startrek.website, lebowski.social, sffa.alliance. I think they provide an interesting and friendly local feed, have a more general federated feed, and then of course you can have your own subs. I say go for it!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I had experience with mastodon several years ago and so when I moved over here from Reddit I was excited to try and find an instance that resonated with me but alas, the only niche ones are like, furry instances, porn instances, and tech instances. Bummed that there haven't been more that have themes.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago

That's exactly why I'm asking, to maybe make a new one with a new theme :)

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago

I think that having different communities for different kinds of art, on an art-focused instance makes sense.

You can have digital art community, painting community, photography community, music, video, etc.

Some of those could even be subdivided like landscape photography, macro photography, portraits, urban life, etc.

Tldr I think there enough different kinds of art that a single community wouldn't do it justice.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

Count me in.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Posting the comment I made over on [email protected] but I checked and made some calculations and unfortunately I just don't have the budget for the initial cost this month AND this instance alongside that. Probably next month I would. Sorry yall.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I have some ben 10 fan art to share and there is a kirta community already so yeah there are digital artists here.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I freaking love ben 10

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

it is one of the best shows, go check out my ben 10 comunity. https://lemmy.world/c/ben_10