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[–] CoolerOpposide@hexbear.net 65 points 1 year ago

I can already see the headline:

The independents have an antisemitism problem

[–] JamesConeZone@hexbear.net 61 points 1 year ago

create your own party please, I beg you

[–] JohnBrownsBussy2@hexbear.net 41 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Meh. Was hoping that he'd throw support behind a broader left-wing challenge to Starmer, but I guess it'd be good for him to remain in parliament.

[–] SexUnderSocialism@hexbear.net 39 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Ever since he got kicked out of Labour I was hoping the rumors of him launching a new party were true, so I'm a bit disappointed that isn't the case. kitty-birthday-sad

[–] CarbonScored@hexbear.net 25 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Though I like the idea in theory, the honest reality is any party would get so crushed by the media even harder than Corbyn's time as leader, to the point it wouldn't have a hope in hell. This may be the best small thing he can do.

[–] SexUnderSocialism@hexbear.net 16 points 1 year ago

True, it would be very unlikely they'd allow him to have any electoral success. Though it would be nice to have some sort of larger scale organized leftist resistance to both Labour and the Tories.

[–] carpoftruth@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Plus he frankly doesn't seem to be politically astute enough to run a party

[–] Biggay@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago

Incredibly stupid move of his was to drop out of party leadership after his defeat

[–] Dyno@hexbear.net 23 points 1 year ago (2 children)

there is no broad left-wing party is the issue. the greens are lukewarm socialists/socdems, the NIP is socialist but small and regionalist, the worker's party is just galloway being a careerist, all the communist parties have issues with racism/homophobia/transphobia/revisionism and no MP could survive the media while running as a communist anyway etc.
I may be biased as an anarchist but socialist independents seem to be the way to go for britain, given that every attempt at a socialist party invariably is usurped from within or sabotaged in the media - it's harder for the MSM to sabotage hundreds of independent candidates rather than a single bloc, and voters tend to like independents for whatever reason - perhaps as an alternative to the westminster duopoly regardless of politics

[–] Lemmygradwontallowme@hexbear.net 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I may be biased as an anarchist but socialist independents seem to be the way to go for britain,

Then better hope for some good contingency and emergency plans, regardless of its success or not, cuz we're going to have a mass reactionary campaign against us, innit...

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 12 points 1 year ago

the greens are lukewarm socialists/socdems

The greens are liberals. They are not lukewarm socdems. Their movement direction is rightwards, for example they used to be opposed to nato but now explicitly support it.

[–] CarmineCatboy2@hexbear.net 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I was under the impression that the labor party was purged. Do left-wing challengers even exist?

[–] JohnBrownsBussy2@hexbear.net 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I mean outside of the Labor party.

[–] CarmineCatboy2@hexbear.net 14 points 1 year ago

well, if thats the strat he might as well try and rob labour of a seat while at it. whoever that challenger is - wether it's corbyn himself or some other independent - you have to diminish the unearned labour power.

[–] Philosoraptor@hexbear.net 38 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I wonder if Corbyn's Labour run had happened today if things might have gone differently. I think a lot of people have now seen how nonsensically and indiscriminately the "antisemitic" label gets used, and that the tactic is getting much less effective.

Nah I think people would have still fallen for it.

[–] CommCat@hexbear.net 24 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Corbyn is a good socdem, but he is too nice to be effective in bourgeois politics, the bourgeois will use all its tools to attack him, and he'll try to be conciliatory.

[–] 420blazeit69@hexbear.net 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What if he comes back as Punished Corbyn

[–] CarbonScored@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Corbyn's final form is what we need

mystery-emote mystery-emote long-corbyn

mystery-emote P U N I S H E D C O R B Y N

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[–] Evilphd666@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago

What if he can team up with Galloway on some critical issues? He can play nice cop while Galloway goes on the badgering firebrand. sicko-wistful

[–] CyberSyndicalist@hexbear.net 18 points 1 year ago

truss the plan

[–] Palacegalleryratio@hexbear.net 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Cool and all, but as I’m not in Islington this isn’t something that affects me. Wish he’d gone for starting a new actually left wing party. Then we could have really got into some good electoralism.

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