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Why say "the people of Gaza" when "Gazans" is right there? Is it Pentagon-speak?

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[–] [email protected] 51 points 1 year ago (2 children)

So you're saying our staging point for the IDF was just a staging point for the IDF and not actually for humanitarian aid?

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago

"Hey, does anybody else know what all these Merkavas are doing on the aid manifest?"

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago

Why not? It was Bibi's plan.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I saw a lib just now say that Trump would be worse than Biden because at least Biden is getting aid into Gaza lmao

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago

I'm broken record but I can't help but think libs should not be allowed to use 𝚠𝚘𝚞𝚕𝚍 + 𝚃𝚛𝚞𝚖𝚙 ~~until after the election~~ permanently. They should get an electric shock if they do. I too love counterfactuals but enough already for this thought-terminating cliché for libs.

I used to not understand Adam Johnson's great dislike of counterfactuals. But I sure do now!

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

At this point, the biggest difference between the Democrats and the Republicans are their ad campaigns. One says, "We melt the poor, but we feel really bad about having to melt them," while the other says, "We melt the poor, because the poor fucking deserve it."

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I did the fatal mistake of looking in a comments section from a news site about this situation.

Mfers really believe "hamas attacked the aid and withheld it for themselves"

debord-tired While it angers and depresses me that people think like this, I'm also not surprised? but also bewildered.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

sartre quote

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

is “the people of gaza” worse than “gazans”? if it was “the people in gaza” i could see how that could enable israeli propaganda on indigeneity, but “of” does suggest some link to their land

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

The typical way to describe people from a place is to use the demonym. An example is Californian. "People of California" sounds like something a pol would say. Or a poet or something. I think it's very notable that - as far as I know - the West Bank has no demonym. Everybody - including reporters - is forced to use a clumsy mouthful of syllables like "Palestinians in the West Bank". I'm not a linguist but it seems really weird to me that a simple demonym (West Bankers?) isn't used.

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Edit

A comment to me at another site

A significant number of them are officially refugees and therefore not Gazan.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago

amending 'people' to demonyms is meant to center the humanity of subjects in speech and engender thought and empathy in writing. the most widespread application is probably 'people of color'. i think the whole project was well intentioned and has some legit positives, it feels better to write 'imprisoned people' instead of criminals or prisoners

but it also rings nauseatingly hollow how corpos and politicals adopted it, they'll sign off on genocide but use the nice words as if that means anything.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

if they called them bankers somebody might bail them out

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

What are the logistical issues, reactionaries barricading the roads?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You'd be amazed how much momentum a truck can have. Just a stupendous amount. A truly jaw dropping volocity.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I mean it could really knock you off your feet. Really make your head spin.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

I saw an article that had said several trucks were unloaded by Palestinians on the way from the pier, so I'm sure if it doesn't help get any aid in Hamas and Palestine will be blamed somehow

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

working as intended

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Why say "the people of Gaza" when "Gazans" is right there?

Because it's only for the settler-colonists who haven't evacuated or been killed by the IOF, yet, the only humans recognized as "people" in the entire territory.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

shocked-pikachu wow, you don't say!