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[–] [email protected] 87 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Stop privatising infrastructure you maniacs.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Stop? Do you think it's continuing? They already are private ☺️.

What you should be saying is: Ask the government to raise billions to buy out private companies that own and operate the vital infrastructure of our country you maniacs!

Not being funny, but this is what you're calling for (nothing wrong with that) but what are you going to not fund whilst you spend money on this. Even Labour has pretty much said this isn't going to happen for this very reason.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Fine them a billion pounds per kilo of sewage dumped, then seize all their assets when they refuse to pay their debt.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

That's actually not a bad idea. Although I would imagine passing regulation like this would be difficult, even with a change in government. 😔

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

Why should they assume nationalising them means paying them?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How else is the government going to nationalise the assets?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Fining the shit out of them for their many many environmental breaches. Then when they're bankrupt, re-nationalise them for cheap.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

Nah, just get the government to send in the army to seize the assets and infrastructure. At this point in time, these companies are the enemy of the people, and what else is the army for, then to protect its people from enemies

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

So essentially, what happened is billions (probably 100's at this point) of public money have been handed to private individuals and everyone is left in the shit, literally.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

They already are private ☺️.

Except for viewers in Scotland.

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[–] [email protected] 51 points 1 year ago (11 children)

Nationalise the lot of them. They had their chance.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Their chance to do what...? This was always about handing them a gravy train.

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago

Water companies have been heavily criticised for widespread leaks and the amount of sewage being discharged, which critics have blamed on under-investment in the country's infrastructure.

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Southern Water is owned by Australian firm Macquarie which has faced fierce criticism for the period when it was Thames Water’s biggest shareholder.

In five of the 10 years it owned Thames, the company paid out more in dividends than it made in profits, while debt rose from £2.5bn to over £10bn in the same period.

"Mum, I need money to repair my bike."

"We gave you money to repair your bike."

"Oh I spent it on sweets for me and my mates."

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If it was a real private market they'd let the firm fail and the investors would take a haircut. Then either someone who could turn a profit while running a decent/affordable service would take over; or the govt would.

We're stuck in the worst of both worlds where it's a privatised monopoly which is unable to fail.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Exactly correct. We need to let them all fail.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago

Here's a fun thought - push a law through demanding a minimal level of service with forced nationalisation at the cost of the shareholders if it isn't met (government pays share price, but proceeds go towards settling company debt first rather than being paid out to shareholders).

Give them a way to fail that doesn't hurt the people who rely on the services, and punish running up unsustainable debt in one joyous law.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Water firms can get in the fucking sea.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hasn't enough toxic waste been dumped in there already?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Maybe they would enjoy experiencing it first hand.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

Privatise profit socialise loss

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ah good, so my bill will rise and then my landlord will up the rents to cover whatever water shit she has to pay too. Brill. Love this Cuntry.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

I have a house and for some reason they still make me pay water bills. Madness.

Also now the poor quality décor is my fault. I'm not into it.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Meanwhile, here in Scotland - where the water supply has always been publicly owned - Scottish Water announced it had received permission for an 8.8% annual increase.

Source: https://www.scottishwater.co.uk/About-Us/News-and-Views/2024/02/Water-and-Waste-Water-Charges-2024-and-2025

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Cucked fucking country. All the executives deserve firing squad.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)
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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Up next the air and the Sun... peasant you gonna pay for fucking shitting here soon too... per each use 😜

Final stage: you pay some money changer for the right to sleep with your wife!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Up next the air and the Sun…

Don't give them ideas!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

How do you go bankrupt selling a life essential that falls out of the sky for free?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Just out of curiosity: the article states finite amounts to pay each year. Do you Brits pay one sub or do you pay for consumption (eg per Liter)?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Both. Some households, usually in older buildings, pay 'water rates' based on the size of their property. Others, including all newly built homes, have water meters which report usage back to the company. We pay for supply of clean water as well as transportation and processing of surface water run-off and sewage.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Ask and ye shall receive...a Hard Stare.

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