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Other philosophy communities have only interpreted the world in various ways. The point, however, is to change it. [ x ]

"I thunk it so I dunk it." - Descartes


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[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I like my models to be casual, ya know, nothing too fancy

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

If you're going to be sneering about people looking dumb you should probably spell causal correctly lol

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Doing science but the cia keeps sneaking into your lab and overthrowing the beakers

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

You're complaining about the CIA fucking up all the experiments, but it very clearly warns about bourgeois capitalists acting as a counter-revolutionary force in the experimentation protocol.

Might as well whine about gravity fucking up all your attempts at rocketry.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

It evolved with and out of scientific understandings of anthropology, psychology, natural/human history, and ecology. It's rooted in the same philosophy as science with the same core project of demystifying a physical universe, but approaches that through constructivist rather than reductionist process. Outside of Latinwang and much smaller efforts from within the same system, there is no other critique of science as a structure from a philosophy compatible with a scientific worldview. There is no science to explain the interaction between vastly different systems which predates what Marx was doing or applies as many analytical angles as subsequent Marxists did. Where there is one, it's neutered by the material interests of its patrons and reduced to passive observation of individual subjects if it's funded at all.

If there's a more scientific philosophy I've never found it despite searching. There just isn't meaningful understanding of one thing without understanding its relational opposites. It doesn't matter if it's an electron or a river or a factory.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yeah if only those Hegelians and Marxists had some sort of iterative philosophical framework that moved between theory and practice to inductively arrive at a conclusion.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (10 children)

Holy shit:

Liam Kofi Bright is a British philosopher of science who is an assistant professor or lecturer in the department of philosophy, logic, and scientific method at the London School of Economics and Political Science. He works primarily on formal social epistemology, particularly the social epistemology of science

WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU DO FOR A LIVING THEN

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

average anglo philosopher cannot read books, all they know is utilitarianism, twerk, call things "continental" and lie

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Popper/Kuhn brain is a powerful drug.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Imperialism is literally full of tables of data-- what does this moron think "materialism" is?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Someone should ask this guy how much it costs to make a coat.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The scientific method of socialism is revolution. The object of study is society and how it changes. The hypothesis is that the class that generates value can change it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (3 children)

this dude has never heard of a social experiment

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

establishing global communism as a prank, bro

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

During the execution of the last capitalist Ashton Kutcher appears around a corner to reveal the hidden cameras

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Romanov's on a prank show feels like it'd be a great WKUK sketch

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Lenin laughing at the Romanovs and pointing out the hidden cameras :lenin-laugh:

Also, a sitcom where Stalin is running the Big Brother house, which is the Führerbunker and the contestants are Hitler, Eva Braun and the rest of the Nazi high command. To amp up the drama, every day an update on the Red Army's progress is broadcast into the bunker, and getting voted out means you need to surrender to the Soviets.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

"Bro it's just a social experiment" I say as I execute the Tsar's family.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Replying to save empirical evidence of Marxism

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

starred and saved, gigabased post

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

just reinterpret Hegel

he doesn't know about historical materialism

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Man thinks utopian socialism is Marxism

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (4 children)

This is just an attack on absolutely everything that isn't a hard-science based in mathematics. Or poo poo pee pee for short.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Except that mathematics mostly isn't a "casual model generating precise predictions", especially at the higher levels, famously so with the philosophical failures of Bertrand Russell.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Thus the intense drive by neo-liberal economists to mathematize their "science." It's physics envy. A bunch of dorks made massive assumptions about human behavior and motivations because that made it a lot easier to model with mathematics, then spent the next century jacking themselves off until they were left with nothing but a bloody stump.

Too bad their assumptions WERE WRONG and they should be laughed at for being such dorks :farquaad-point:

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Just your average STEM douchebag

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Here's the twist: This guy isn't a STEM lord, he's an assistant professor for philosophy.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Basically :gun-hubris:

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

I like my models like I like my relationships, casual. Nothing long term, nothing too clingy.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (7 children)

Positivism zealots are so tiring

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Cockshott is a TERF Anglo prick, but he has in fact shown, mathematically, that the LTV is correct. Yes, in a peer reviewed journal.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Stafford Beer also arrived at this conclusion (accidentally too). Then actually put it in practice in Chile before the coup

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