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Released amid record-breaking temperatures and rising seas, the survey reports an alarming decline in perceived urgency.

Archived version: https://archive.ph/WzxgU

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They know its urgent, they are just sick of being ignored

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Couldn't say it better myself. People here say that people have no stomach for revolution, but they'll have plenty of stomach for it when they haven't eaten two meals during the inevitable famines.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 year ago

What am I supposed to do? Live in a perpetual anxiety attack? Instead I choose to accept I'm one of the last living humans before the atmosphere turns to acid, or skittles, or whatever the fuck.

But hey, line go up.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago

Tbh I'm just so tired of it, my whole life I've been warned about this constantly, non stop, and nobody with any power does anything effective ever.

I do all my little environmentally friendly things and they're all just routine now. I rarely even bother to read about it anymore because its so depressing and I've been told lie after lie after lie that this policy will help and that regulation will be great and and these new laws will counteract it and then... Nothing, just right back to destroying this pale blue dot

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago

What's the youth supposed to do? They've been mocked and cursed and attacked and arrested for participating in climate action, and the people in charge are continuing on their slow and unsteady curse. We've had many decades of warnings with increasing urgency and nobody cared enough, what's the point of focusing on the youth when they're the least responsible for the state of the world?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

There’s a huge difference in how people process/accept/protest when the conversation changes from “if we keep doing what we’re doing, we’ll kill the earth” to “the earth is already fucked, best of luck.”

There’s a certain point where optimism degrades into hopelessness.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

To be clear, this poll is only about American youth. I've not seen anything about the same reduction in urgency in youths from elsewhere in the world.

It's also worth noting that the poll didn't have a particularly large number of participants and that the age range was 18+ which obviously excludes a fair number of American youths younger than 18.

The Monmouth University Poll was conducted by telephone from April 18 to 22, 2024 with 808 adults in the United States.

I'm also just going to leave this here as a counterpoint:

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2023/09/unprecedented-youth-climate-trial-demands-action-from-32-european-governments/

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I mean, we keep hearing breathlessly alarmed articles about how "this year is a tipping point!" and "if we don't do X by next year it's all over!" And then those dates pass, and either new dates are announced or they're just forgotten about.

Crying wolf means that when the actual wolf comes nobody pays attention any more.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We are beyond the tipping point. Just look at this year. We have floods that are dumping in days what used to take months, and we have droughts never seen in the modern age.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Well, there you go. How can you expect people to pay attention when you're telling them there's nothing they can do?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That's not what I'm saying. We are past the point of being able to reverse the harm already done, but we can still limit the future harm. And that is critical. The current world is still livable, alternative is portions of the world becomes unlivable.

And who knows, maybe some future tech will make possible what is impossible today.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's not a "tipping point", then. Being past a tipping point means that future harm is unavoidable.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Future harm is unavoidable. There is worse future harm avoidable. It's really not that hard of a concept.

Shit is already gonna be bad, but we can prevent it from becoming really bad.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's the difference between what they can do and what they're willing to do. Future generations will think us fools.