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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

because anything that hurts the feelings of the Christo-nazis (eg, facts, science, etc.) is "harmful to children". it's just 21st-century book burning.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

This article goes against what I've noticed in schools, as a teacher.

In schools I've worked in that block sites students want to reach (games or video streaming, almost exclusively), one kid in the school figures out how to sign up for a free VPN, and it spreads quickly until everyone in the school is using a crappy (likely unsafe) VPN. They don't have the knowledge to seek out a reputable VPN; they just get whatever spyware they find first that works.

There's no point filtering school Internet, except for known porn sites. Block PornHub, obviously, but as soon as you block YouTube or Cool Math Games, then every student in the school will be using a shitty VPN by the end of the month.

That said, students aren't going to put the effort in to get around blocks for schoolwork. Obviously. They aren't going to open the VPN for that!

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Coming from someone who has done sysadmin work for schools, in practice the problem with filtering tends to come from the federal government requiring you to filter porn or else loose your funding, but doesn’t really provide any more guidance or resources beyond that.

Given most schools tend to be tight on money, this in practice means generally ticking the box’s in the firewalls config or outsourcing the whole system and the people who control the defaults control the vast majority of schools. No one person is going to try and keep track of and sort the entire internet, so often no one has any idea of what the ever updating list of blocked sites is until someone actually brings it up.

Personally I think the government should just set up a small board that maintains a repo with a list of sites they want blocked to comply with funding instead of leaving it up to the school, who will tend to be overzealous because there’s minimal to no cost one way and a massive one if it makes the news that you’re not strict enough.

This list of not safe for work sites could then even be used as the base of the filter for other government buildings too when combined with a data exfill list, and would save everyone a lot of time and effort. Of course it would likely hurt sales for a handful of companies with lobbyists and will never get done, but it would solve this issue.

All that being said, in the case of many of the schools listed in the article I have no trouble believing it’s malicious. The problem shouldn’t have taken more than a ticket or first talk with a sysadmin to resolve, much less escalated to legal action, and is undoubtly an active choice on the part of the school administrations in question.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

This is kinda how it's done for a lot of schools in the UK.

RM and SWGFL do the filtering systems, and schools pay subscriptions to use them. They're not infallible, but as there are a large number of schools subscribed to the filters, false positives/negatives are generally ironed out over time by the herd.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Sounds like a scunthrope problem more than a malicious admin.