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[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In both instances, medicalization of these things is such a huge cover-up for bigotry.

People who accuse trans people of having a "mental condition that needs to be treated either without transition or with excessive gatekeeping" aren't looking out for their best interest. They just want to attempt to logically justify their transphobia, which, in actuality, stems from a "trans people are icky" mindset. They know well enough that calling something "icky", however, doesn't serve as an actual argument, though, so they have to pull some kind of rationale out of their ass, even if it's rooted in falsehood.

Fatphobic people are the same. Once again, they're not concerned with them being "unhealthy". They just think fat people look unpleasant and want to try to rationally justify it by seeming empathetic about their health when they're obviously not.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There's also money in this

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago

Capitalism on its shit as usual

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Thank the gods for informed consent clinics. I'd probably still be fighting for HRT to this day if I had to go through the standard avenues without informed consent.

That being said, I do wish I could do something for comrades that don't have access to informed consent clinics. I just don't think there's a damned thing I can do.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

i am so so so glad that i have access to one, because building up the will to actually get on hrt was hard even with how few obstacles i had; i cannot imagine how challenging that would have been if my doctor had spent months or years interrogating me before anything could happen

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

Let's not even begin with the trouble fat trans people can run into at their endocrinologist. I've met trans women who were gatekept for over a year (in addition to the general gatekeeping of HRT here) due to their weight and age, even though estradiole gel has practically zero increase in risk for blood clots.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (3 children)

What's the problem with the diabetes drug? Is it just because the fat person didn't ask? Also damn, I feel awful for people who have these kinds of doctors, I feel lucky cause I've never had to deal with a doctor like that.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

I hated shopping around for GPs the last time I moved :(

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

I'm assuming gastric bypass? Knew someone who did it. They got unhealthily skinny Imo but that's a them call plus I'm hella biased and like cuddling big dudes. It's hard to do but I think it would've been better for them to do it naturally first, instead of gaining the weight to then necessitate the surgery. Again just my opinion.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I can't speak for doctors everywhere but in my experience doctors are not trying to push bariatric surgery on people who doesn't need it. If anything they're gatekeeping that as well since some people mistakenly believe it to be an easy way of doing weight loss. The doctors I speak of are all operating inside a public healthcare system though and I'm sure things are different at private clinics where people pay money up front themselves.

Someone near and dear to me recently had bariatric surgery after a years-long process of tests and assessments. Although it has a lot of nasty side effects their quality of life has improved immensely. They're able to move around freely in ways they couldn't before, their body doesn't hurt all the time, they are mostly rid of their painful oedemas, their self-image has improved incredibly and their chance of living to know their potential grandchildren has increased significantly.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

their chance of living to know their potential grandchildren has increased significantly.

This is fairly doubtful

Participants included 21,837 matched surgery and non-surgery pairs. Follow-up was up to 40 years (mean [SD], 13.2 [9.5] years). All-cause mortality was 16% lower in surgery compared with non-surgery groups (hazard ratio, 0.84; 95% CI: 0.79-0.90; p < 0.001). Significantly lower mortality after bariatric surgery was observed for both females and males. Mortality after surgery versus non-surgery decreased significantly by 29%, 43%, and 72% for cardiovascular disease, cancer, and diabetes, respectively. The hazard ratio for suicide was 2.4 times higher in surgery compared with non-surgery participants (95% CI: 1.57-3.68; p < 0.001), primarily in participants with ages at surgery between 18 and 34 years.

While a 16 percent decrease is better than nothing, it means that there is no survival impact for 84 out of 100 people even though they are presumably no longer obese or overweight.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Maybe "significantly" is too positive a word, ultimately that's a question of semantics. Either way, the other benefits are very likely to make the surgery worth it for people. The person I know has told me how they felt literally trapped inside their own body before as the obesity made moving around hard and painful, triggering their PTSD which probably shares an origin with the obesity. In my experience (and your mileage may vary) it has made them a much happier person.

I'm not saying that everyone who are unhappy with their weight should have bariatric surgery. It is not an easy and risk-free solution and an amount of gatekeeping is warranted. However it does have its place as a treatment for patients who are impaired by their obesity an for whom less radical methods has proven ineffective.