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[–] [email protected] 64 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I'm not proud to admit it, but that is pretty close to how my tires were last week. I finally swapped them out, but even with my employee discount i was looking at almost $700 for a set of four. Tires are expensive, and you often dont realize how bad they have gotten until it is too late. Even finding used tires is difficult these days.

That being said, going from exposed wires to fresh tires is amazing. I got in my car and immediately noticed i was sitting 3 inches higher, and it's wonderful driving a car that actually grips the road instead of just sitting on top of them.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 years ago (10 children)

700$!? Where are you located that tires are this expensive? Here in Austria they are between 40€-80€ per 1 tire.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 years ago (2 children)

A new set of 4 tires plus alignment for my compact crossover is about $900-930 in the US.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago (4 children)

I paid $700 2 years ago for tires for my SUV. SUV tires are a bit more expensive - but they’re still not cheap for sedans. I’m in the USA.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Just did this too mine were $600 for my car. They weren't even top grade tires or anything crazy. Live in u.s. Midwest

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I still have no idea how I got 4 tires for about $180 in the Midwest a few years ago

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 years ago (2 children)

How did you passed the inspection with these tires?! or is it damaged within one year?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 years ago (1 children)

In the US most states don't care in California (where I live) as long as it has a cat and passes emissions your good

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago

I only just got the car 6 months ago, but Ohio doesn't have annual inspections

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago

I get used tires for around $30-$40 per tire. Between $150 and $200 gets a full set with installation. They last me a few years from there, driving around 8,000 miles per year. They don't match, but I don't care.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 2 years ago (2 children)

They're slicks, just like race cars use! That must mean they're super grippy, right?

[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago

No, this isn’t the grippy layer. The grippy stuf is long gone.

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Drive a little more and you'll have METAL tires which are the BEST!

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

And sparkly ༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

Once that layer is worn down, the extra grip metal braid will be exposed, and the car will have super traction.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 years ago (3 children)

For all those wandering if these are slick (racing) tires, it doesn't look like it. You can clearly see the grooves worn out (bottom left) and the threads through the rubber on the left, indicating extremely worn out tires. I'm curious though as to how anyone would get their tires in this shape before a safety inspection would have made it mandatory to change them.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 2 years ago (6 children)

Many states (and presumably many countries) done have safety inspections. In the Midwest there are tons of old vehicles that would never pass an inspection out on the road

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Is that because regulations are for commies, or there's some Big Road Traffic Accident lobby profiting off people dying in shitboxes? What possible reason is there to allow such an obvious death trap on the road?

[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 years ago

There's a combination of anti-regulation sentiments and poverty. Rural towns in particular have a lot of old ass beaters driving around and people don't have the income to fix or replace those vehicles. But yeah, that's also where you get a lot of the "gub'ment can take it from my cold dead hands" types of attitudes, even (especially?) when it's for the safety and well-being of people. Hell people fought restaurant smoking laws up until the early 2010's, and some states still have no helmet law for motorcycles.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 years ago

I had a motorcycle shop tell me they were saving my tires because they'd never seen anything so overcooked. What can I say, I could barely afford the bike. It isn't running now because I can't afford to fix it. This economy is fucking terrible.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 years ago

Racing slicks at home:

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Isn't this pretty much optimal on dry surfaces? The patterns in the tires are for draining away water, and nothing else. I mean, look at F1 tires for dry roads.

But the tiniest splash of water will send you on a rotational journy into what's straight ahead.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago

And those tires are wet in the picture, so it's amazing they're still alive.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago

On a dry surface these have more grip but the belts are exposed and any debris wouldn't bit be absorbed by the tread so I'm guessing not optimal for dry surface but very dangerous.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 years ago

Some racers pay big money for "Slicks" like these.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 years ago

Tires are at their best when I can see my reflection in them, right?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I didn't know a tire could be so smooth it casts a reflection. This must the maximum smoothnes possible.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 years ago

You're sliding all the way to god on those bad boys

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 years ago

Combine with brakes worn down to the calipers on rotors directly and you’re facing the final boss on hard mode for the prize of life

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

This is just driving on hard mode.

/s no don't do this, this is so dangerous.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 years ago

One more coat of WD-40 should do it.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 years ago (2 children)
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[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Does police or yearly car inspection prior to registration not check for these? Here we need to have winter set and summer set of tires, plus that all gets checked regularly and you can't register your car if it doesn't pass technical exam.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Most everywhere here in the States has stopped doing any form of yearly vehicle examination, and the police in most places won't pull you over for anything relating to vehicle issues unless it's either seriously egregious or they have nothing better to do (sometimes not even then, like my local PD, who has been doing effectively nothing for the past 3 years ever since a police reform law was talked about.)

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Most everywhere here in the States has stopped doing any form of yearly vehicle examination

Is this true? We have annual inspections in Pennsylvania.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 years ago (2 children)

It is. Only 15 states have a periodic inspection.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vehicle_inspection_in_the_United_States

Kentucky is laughable. It's literally only "inspected" if you bought the car from out of state, and the inspection was $15, and a sheriff comes out tells you to step on the brakes and turn your headlights and emergency lights on. You need 1 working headlight, any one working tail light, (yes you'll pass with just that tiny one in the center of your rear window,) and any two indicator lights to pass. The guy that did mine kicked my tires and said, "yep, it's a car."

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago

Here in Maryland, my car, that I bought new in 1999, has technically never needed a safety inspection. Emissions every two years, but no safety. Isn't that a fun thought? If I were to sell it, it would need to be inspected then (and it's a pretty thorough inspection), but otherwise...nah.

I keep it in better condition and would never let the tires get to this point. A few months ago, I replaced a set of tires because they had aged out, and even that was longer than I usually like to keep them. But not everyone has the money or inclination (or insanity) to keep a car that old in good condition.

But, statistically, there's little evidence that safety inspections reduce crashes which kind of makes you wonder whether it's really worth it. It's one of those things that seems logical, but the statistics may not bear that out. At most, it's only a small improvement, not a drastic difference.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago

Just put them in tire warmers every morning for 20 minutes. That’ll do.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago (2 children)

TBH, that's not a bad wear pattern, aside from being as bald a cue ball. The alignment, balance, and inflation are all pretty good, the tire is just completely shot. Most of the time you'll see pretty bad wear patterns on tires that are allowed to go that far, because people that can't afford tires usually can't afford alignments either.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago (2 children)

How the fuck do the tires even pick up the road at that point 😂

Driving on the free way?? Christ on a bike

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Cars on race tracks use bald tyres for more contact with the road, which gives better grip. The tread is there to guide water out so the car doesn't slide in the wet.

Unfortunately it looks like the image is of a car with bald tyres in the wet (I'm assuming that's why it's shiny).

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Also worth noting though that the main reason race cars are able to get more grip with slick tires is because the tires are made to have a very low melting (?) point. So they heat up very quickly and also don’t last very long as a result. But that heating up allows them to literally stick to the ground. Normal car tires ain’t doing that for sure.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children)

Man I just went down a rabbit hole and no one can agree on car tyres. It seems you're right about special racing tyres that melt and attach to the road (after warm up laps), but no one can agree on whether bald car tyres in the dry have more grip than treaded ones (in ideal conditions). For sure, wet, snow, sand, gravel, etc. You want the tread, which is pretty much every public road since they are not swept perfectly clean and smooth. But I could not find an answer to whether bald tyres grip the road better. People say they don't, which is why racing cars use slicks, but that's not proof, even if bald tyres grip better they would still use soft tyres for even better grip.

I found reddit threads with engineers saying one thing and other engineers saying they are wrong. Racing forums with non-engineers saying the soft slicks are the reason for grip and bald regular car tyres have less grip. No one can back up their claims.

It's obvious that it's a bad idea to drive on bald tyres because the road is always an imperfect surface, but I can't even find a hypothetical answer to the question with any confidence.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago

Welcome to cars. Combination of advice that's valid, advice that used to be valid but isn't anymore, and advice that was never valid. Very few ways to verify anything, because the knowledge is held by manufacturers and racing teams who have reasons to keep secrets.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The knobs on tires are so that water has a way to escape when a car drives over it. A completely flat Tyre has the most traction but can't handle rain. Every day Tires have a mix to handle all conditions. I may be wrong but I remember hearing this in a youtube video

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago

That's basically correct. One caveat is that manufactures often put gripper material on the outside, while the inside is meant only as a base and doesn't have much grip. You can't make DIY racing slicks just by sanding down normal tires. Maybe you could back when the World's Fastest Indian guy did it, but not now.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago

It's time for a tire regroove! Tire shops will hate you.

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