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War crime question (hexbear.net)
submitted 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
 

Does anybody have link to a page (ideally Wikipedia or similar or the NYT or WaPo) that I can show that Israel is committing war crimes by denying civilians (in other words people) - food, water, medical care, etc?

I want to share it with libs instead of having a moronic arguments and having a feeling of [redacted]. Ideally - I want to simply want to share the link and the short(-ish) quote, have the last word, and leave.

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I googled - of course - but google is really becoming a hot garbage dumpster fire.

The only thing I found that was remotely useful is The Siege of Gaza and the Starvation War Crime - justsecurity.org. A problem is that I don't want to argue with libs about the justsecurity.org website. I don't know anything about it. Another problem is there's actually way too much info and there are way too many legal details.

If I shared a page like that. And I couldn't resist coming back to the thread hours later - I will have another feeling of [redacted] again if the lib had said "The page is too long so I can't verify your quote that you likely took out of context." or "I'm not a lawyer so won't read that page." or they wrote some other annoying nonsense.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago

I mean, honestly I think that that source is going to be as factual as you can get, it seems. The first couple pf paragraphs lay out plainly that Israel is committing a war crime. This site describes as justsecurity.org as a center-left website with high reliability for reporting. The people who run the site also all seem to have legal/federal backgrounds that are specifically focused on foreign affairs and such.

I think the issue is knowing that it doesn't matter how many factual, as unbiased sources as you can muster, people do not care and will fight you, or back out of the conversation entirely because they are just trolling you for emotional labor. This has been my exclusive experience on Reddit. I will provide irrefutable evidence from sources like the fucking FBI, which of course a lib would trust, or state health agencies, etc. and the person who was arguing with me for two days just vanishes. I do enjoy having a good copy/paste effortpost to be able to insert where it's appropriate, though, in hopes that someone out there reads it and it helps to shift their perspectve a bit.