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[–] [email protected] 57 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Collapse takes decades. It's happening now and has been since 9/11.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 40 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Clearly defined shift in foreign policy that also began hollowing out our economy in earnest, very easy to point to as a tipping point

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 years ago

but those $600 in bush bucks was nice, just had to let them loot everything else

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago

That's not a bad date to pin it at. Reminds me of how there's multiple dates that historians place the end of the Roman Empire at