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Will libs have a collective realization about Ukraine like they did with Iraq or will they stay stubborn in it forever? (hexbear.net)

submitted 2 years ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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I think a material difference between Iraq (v2 anyway) and Ukraine is that they can keep doing the "well Russia was the aggressor" thing indefinitely even if the reality is more complicated.

also yes obviously some libs are still stubborn about Iraq, the worst ones, but for the most part its generally agreed that the Iraq War was a bad thing.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 years ago (1 children)

No. Their role is to support it, like Iraq, then lament the consequences after the fact as damage control.

I remember Chris Hedges saying something to that measure in regards to Iraq. The liberal intellectual class is there to support the state and American project.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I guess I should have been more specific, but when I say "libs" I'm not referring to the thought leaders, I'm referring to the rank and file. (This is generally what I mean when I use the term in a general sense actually).

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

the rank and file will probably follow the thought leaders

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago

Rank and file turned on Iraq before the thought leaders did kinda