World News
A community for discussing events around the World
Rules:
-
Rule 1: posts have the following requirements:
- Post news articles only
- Video links are NOT articles and will be removed.
- Title must match the article headline
- Not United States Internal News
- Recent (Past 30 Days)
- Screenshots/links to other social media sites (Twitter/X/Facebook/Youtube/reddit, etc.) are explicitly forbidden, as are link shorteners.
-
Rule 2: Do not copy the entire article into your post. The key points in 1-2 paragraphs is allowed (even encouraged!), but large segments of articles posted in the body will result in the post being removed. If you have to stop and think "Is this fair use?", it probably isn't. Archive links, especially the ones created on link submission, are absolutely allowed but those that avoid paywalls are not.
-
Rule 3: Opinions articles, or Articles based on misinformation/propaganda may be removed. Sources that have a Low or Very Low factual reporting rating or MBFC Credibility Rating may be removed.
-
Rule 4: Posts or comments that are homophobic, transphobic, racist, sexist, anti-religious, or ableist will be removed. “Ironic” prejudice is just prejudiced.
-
Posts and comments must abide by the lemmy.world terms of service UPDATED AS OF 10/19
-
Rule 5: Keep it civil. It's OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (pejorative, pejorative). It's NOT OK to say another USER is (pejorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect! This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban.
Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.
-
Rule 6: Memes, spam, other low effort posting, reposts, misinformation, advocating violence, off-topic, trolling, offensive, regarding the moderators or meta in content may be removed at any time.
-
Rule 7: We didn't USED to need a rule about how many posts one could make in a day, then someone posted NINETEEN articles in a single day. Not comments, FULL ARTICLES. If you're posting more than say, 10 or so, consider going outside and touching grass. We reserve the right to limit over-posting so a single user does not dominate the front page.
We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.
All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.
Lemmy World Partners
News [email protected]
Politics [email protected]
World Politics [email protected]
Recommendations
For Firefox users, there is media bias / propaganda / fact check plugin.
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/media-bias-fact-check/
- Consider including the article’s mediabiasfactcheck.com/ link
view the rest of the comments
That’s not how it works. I know multiple Muslim women who wear headscarves and abayas without anyone pressuring them to do so. Blanket banning that is taking away their rights; where does it end? Do we ban all marriages because some women are pressured into one?
They don't can women from wearing them - just children that usually wear whatever their parents want them to wear without having a choice.
It's about making a conscious decision while also removing as much religion from schools as possible
It doesn’t end in schools, the far right is also banning them from government property and fining women who cover their face in public.
Why would women want to cover their face in public?
Some women do because it’s considered Mustahab, they do it out of a desire to get extra credit from God. Others do it because they want a sense of privacy, as in they only show their face to their family.
It’s sometimes hard for non-Muslims to grasp but they want to be judged based on their ideas and speech and not by their looks. A lot of western society won’t take women seriously if they don’t put makeup on or dress a certain way, and this is pushing back on that mindset.
Women are taught since childhood that if they don't cover themselves they will go to hell (basically), so when people say "they are not forced, they do it because they want", its because they are taught if they dont do it, they are going to be punished.
You wouldn't send a kid in a bikini and makeup to school, right? So why is the other option not wrong too?
Again that’s not true. Go talk to some Muslims before you just repeat false stereotypes.
And even if that were true that people do things for their religion, why is it your business? Are you going to force us to eat pork, like some French far right extremists are calling for?
Im going to force you to accept homosexuality, yes.
Is that what this has been about in your mind? We can’t freely wear what we want because you want to force your politics on others?
Politics? I dont want to be beaten up or killed on the streets because in holding hands with my partner.
You calling it politics shows what you really think about homosexuality.
Glad of the decision of France and hope more west European countries follow them.
You’re being needlessly hyperbolic. You can hold hands with men in literally any and every Muslim country out there. It’s absolutely normal. But it’s quite telling how the false stereotypes in your mind work.
Sexuality is your hot button issue and religious freedom is mine. You’re demanding your opinion be respected while insulting mine. You’re fine with trying to force others to agree with you while I’m merely for letting people be free to wear what they want. Somehow you view that as a threat? Wearing longsleeves leads to homophobia in your crazy mind. France is only hurting itself and causing more conflict, you need to learn French history better to see how badly this will end.
A lot of Muslim countries have death penalty on homosexual, what are you even talking about?
Im not insulting you in any way. Dont compare the lgbt community to your religion. We are really fighting for freedom. You are fighting for women opression and punishment of homosexuality. Period.
A ton of countries have laws against homosexuality still on the books, i even lived in a Christian country that still jails for homosexual acts today, that’s not specific to Muslim ones. That still doesn’t invalidate my point that you can hold hands in public in Muslim communities and literally nobody cares. The only punishment is for open public sex acts in the presence of witnesses (also a crime in New York City), which is still better than Uganda or Jamaica lynching rumored gays. Stop singling out Muslims when American Muslims are statistically more likely to support LGBT rights than American Christians. I’m not your enemy despite all the misplaced ignorant hate you’re spewing here.
You’re being continuously insulting by first making this about you (French people can’t have religious freedom because people in OTHER countries behave in a way you hate) and ignoring everything I say just so you can talk past me and repeat your false and hateful stereotypes. Even the gay Muslims I know don’t approve of your idea to ban individual religious freedom. Grow up and peace.
Everytime i wear a rainbow object on me I got looks and insults from mid east guys. Just yesterday I was wearing a hat with a rainbow flag minding my own business and three men in three different ocassions called me homophobic slurs and kept looking at me with hate, and other mid east men stared at me as if I had something on my face, while other people of other races don't give a fuck. It is a lie that Muslims are accepting of homosexuality. Literally no mosque would hang a rainbow flag. During pride parades there are no Muslims to be seen. Right now you are a minority, but if you ever were a majority, im damn sure you are going to fight to remove homosexual rights, just like any outher muslim country. Literally look at the maps and you can see what countries criminalize lgbt people and what countries dont.
Literally there are no LGBT people insulting muslims. We all want peace, but wont have it with you, because you cant accept others not living under your religion.
It’s amazing how comfortable bigots like you can be in generalizing literally Billions of people. (Let alone the fact that you’re unwilling to admit that you were proven wrong about handholding.) There are mosques with rainbow flags, my own mosque gave a sermon on the importance of trans rights, and there’s Muslims at every NYC pride parade, but that doesn’t matter to you since you never bothered to look and would rather insist on your prejudices.
Not my experience at all. And there you go again with your stereotyping and prejudices. I’m clearly not getting through to someone as blind as you.
So any comments on the maps I showed or are you going to skip it because it doesnt fit your agenda?
Yeah, right, we LGBT love to attack muslims /s. Go tell your dream stories to other people.
No children is choosing to wear it.
How many Muslim children have you spoken to? Seriously? You know nothing.
Kids want to imitate and be seen as adults; which is why Muslim boys want to grow beards even without any prompting and Muslim girls want to wear hijab because it’s also a sign they’ve matured. Sikh boys want to have beards and turbans for the same reason, and conservative Jewish boys want to have facial hair or a payess.
To these kids, you’re telling them they can’t look like their families in school and have to suppress their religion and culture. You’re singling them out and putting all the burden on them and not putting the same burden on the non-minority children. That’s the wrong way to do it.
If an adult wear provocative dresses or adult clothes, you would not let a child dress like that because their parents do.
All religious items are banned in schools in France, so just because you are minority, don't give you the right to not follow what others do.
You genuinely don’t know that and are making assumptions. Talk to some Muslim families before you assume that’s how everyone is. Kids often proudly like to dress in cultural or ethnic clothing and since it’s start at a certain age they want to as a mark of maturity. It should be about choice and you seem unwilling to accept when people choose to wear things.
Again you’re grossly overgeneralizing 2 Billion people as if we’re all alike. It’s still wrong and untrue. It’s like claiming Mexicans beat their wives or something. That’s just not the experience I’ve had after decades of living in Muslim communities. I hope you learn that someday.
Again, you’re falsely assuming Islam is monolithic. I’ve read the entire Quran in both English and Arabic, please show me where the Quran says to kill people who become atheist. I’ll wait. It says God won’t accept it but there’s no earthly punishment listed.
And dude, I converted to Islam, so your condescending attempt at insult doesn’t work.
That’s not what 2:54 says. Also that’s not at all what history shows. The city of Medina was under literal siege from the Meccans camped outside the city’s barriers. Anyone who publicly left Islam went out and joined the opposing army, so at the time they were executed for treason, not changing religions. Learn your history better, ask any history department rather than an anemic English Wikipedia page that lacks more Arabic sources.
2:54 is quoting Moses talking to the children of Israel about how God forgave them for worshipping the call, it is not a command today about punishing people who change religions. Of all the ayaat to quote you used the least relevant one that said the literal opposite of what you claimed. No wonder you’re so misled, did you get that inaccurate one from Wikipedia too?
It’s not common knowledge, it’s a popular myth. The scholars are not saying what you’re claiming, which is why I suggested you find better sources than Wikipedia; the Arabic page and the English page don’t even agree.
I never once gave an opinion about evolution so you’re strawmanning me or lumping me in someone else. You don’t know me but keep acting like all Muslims are alike.
Oh so now you’re trying to No True Scotsman me? Buddy I lead prayers at the mosque. You presume to educate me about my own religion? How many years have you studied it, pray tell? Show me your ijaza before you talk down to me. There’s nearly 2 Billion Muslims out there, of course there’s going to be various sects and interpretations, but you don’t care since you only accept the one that fits your hateful narrative, regardless of how many other Muslims oppose it.
The majority of the world’s Muslims live in democracies but that’s clearly not relevant to you since it doesn’t prove your prejudices. Go educate yourself.
guess I'll end the conversation here