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Using Clouds for too long might have made you incompetent (loudwhisper.me)

submitted 1 day ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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My take on how a decade (or more) of using cloud services for everything has seemingly deskilled the workforce.

Just recently I found myself interviewing senior security engineers just to realize that in many cases they had absolutely no idea about how the stuff they supposedly worked with, actually worked.

This all made me wonder, is it possible that over-reliance on cloud services for everything has massively deskilled the engineering workforce? And if it is so, who is going to be the European clouds, so necessary for EU's digital sovereignty?

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

I somewhat disagree here, but also somewhat agree.

In my org, we get a lot of requirements that require very different skillsets. For the first 2-3 years, our task list was mostly CRUD stuff with some domain specific logic, but otherwise a boring web app. In the last 1-2 years, we have:

ported a Fortran simulation to Python
embedded a C++ simulation in Python
created a 3D UX for our previously 2D only app (lots of 3D logic on both FE and BE)
implemented a machine learning algorithm to train our simulations

If I hired only for the work I'd seen in the past, we'd be completely unfit to handle this workload since we'd mostly have people who are really good at building CRUD apps (so DB optimization and quick UX building).

On the flipside, we cut off huge swaths of work so people don't need to wear too many hats. We have:

dedicated devOPs - handles everything from trst pipelines to prod deployments
dedicated QA - manual and automated app-level testing - devs still do unit testing
dedicated product teams who handle feature requirements and documentation
dedicated UX team to produce designs for FE engineers to implement

So our devs only need to worry about development, but they also need a broad skillset in that domain, from everything from local tooling to working in different domains. We hire a diverse set of candidates, some with a heavy math background, some with design experience, and some with low level programming experience, because we never know what projects we'll get or who will suddenly leave the org.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 12 hours ago

If I understand the gist, I'll just say I'd like my job to be some stuff I'm good and some stuff that challenges me. When I do nothing but challenge myself, imposter syndrome sets in. When I do nothing but the stuff that I'm good at, it gets really boring. I need to find a better mix than I have been.