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Let's get one thing straight: Waiting tables is the one industry where workers are already getting a living wage, and tipping is the reason for that.
Yes, it's a messy, organic system that no one would have designed. But it's evolved to fill the niche perfectly. Servers get more money, labor costs stay low, patrons choose how much they pay. It's a win-win-win and they only people unhappy are the one who think they are paying the servers too much.
Why would I want to switch from a system where consumers can pay for my labor directly to one where the managerial class takes a cut? If a restaurant stopped allowing tips, and raised prices by 20%, how much of that increase do you think would go to the workers? There's no way to get rid of tipping that's not a reduction in server pay and a more negative experience for restaurant patrons. As a bonus, these "solutions" usually make things harder for exactly the kind of small businesses that we all wish there were more of.
Tipping works. Please don't "fix" it.
Tipping works for servers because you as the customer has good insight into how good the service you got was. Customers need to tip poorly when the waiter is bad for this to work.
Tipping for delivery is unethical - the only way a driver can give you better service is if they break driving laws , so your tip is incentive to commit a crime.
Strongly disagree. For speed, there's things like being able to find an apartment or navigate competently on the roads, both of which I've seen drivers struggle with thanks to gps-enabled apps. There's polite communication, thinking to grab condiments/napkins, and other little niceties that go above the delivery itselff.
And this is assuming "good" experience is the baseline. I've had enough bad experiences that I appreciate when I don't have a shitty one, like food that's been clearly flopping around in the car or a driver too lazy to use a hotbag to keep stuff warm.
The shit those apps do where you're expected to set the tip amount before delivery, now that's the real bullshit around tipping for delivery, imo.
Why are you ordering delivery if your life is so empty that you have time to watch what the driver is doing. Just go yourself. If delivery is so bad that you feel a need to watch it like that, then it is unacceptable. This is just baseline competence - you shouldn't be handling this with tips, their manager should be firing someone who can't figure out how to navigate after getting training (Which they should provide before a driver starts!)
That is for the store to put into the bag, not the driver to deal with. Even if the driver puts them into the bag, they are standard baseline and the manager should do that.
Those are things you don't find out about until the driver has left your door with the tip.
Project much? Sometimes I order food after drinking. Sometimes I do it when I'm traveling and don't have local transportation. Sometimes I do it when I'm stuck on a conference call.
That depends on the place. My local Chinese places all let you grab your own. Same for my favorite pizza place and their crushed red pepper. Much like your quote in my last comment, this one show your lack of perspective.
It sounds like your delivery service is already pretty consistently good without needing to tip, so by all means continue to do you.
I almost never order delivery, so I'm asking out of confusion on why someone who does use it does if they are that bad.
I do tip delivery because as I said it is expected. However I still contend it is unethical.