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[–] [email protected] 49 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Why do people love to hate on Firefox? People have been harping on Pocket for years as a waste of resources that hardly anyone uses, but now that they are eliminating it, people are coming out of the woodwork to wax nostalgic?

It turns out that making a modern browser is a huge, complex task. It's been said that it is more on par with maintaining an OS than another type of app. Mozilla is not perfect but why are we so quick to let the perfect be the enemy of the good?

It's pretty tone-deaf to criticize layoffs on the same article that acknowledges their historic dependence on Google's rapidly collapsing monopoly. Where is the money going to come from?

A poorly thought out blog post about the only major browser that isn't built on Apple, Google, or Microsoft.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

It's pretty tone-deaf to criticize layoffs on the same article that acknowledges their historic dependence on Google's rapidly collapsing monopoly. Where is the money going to come from?

If you scroll up, you'll see the part of the article that mentions Mozilla wasting tens of millions of dollars on AI.

Where do you think that money comes from?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The author's timeline is off. The AI investment was in 2023, before most of the Google antitrust activity. They are also scaling back their AI programs.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Today [October 28, 2024] Germ announces pre-seed funding from investors K5 Global via partner Daniel Marcotte, Mozilla Ventures, Gaingels, and angel investors including Nick Sullivan, Jessica Millstone of Copper Wire Ventures, and Adam Sah.

https://www.germnetwork.com/blog/germ-announces-pre-seed-funding

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Looks like a step in the right direction. E2EE messaging is a worthy venture under the Mozilla umbrella.

Not sure why you are posting about it in this thread about AI.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I know it's a 90% chance you don't care how Mozilla wastes its money and are just looking for an excuse to dismiss that one.

But maybe I'm wrong.

https://www.linkedin.com/posts/germ-network_we-went-back-to-convex-to-co-host-our-second-activity-7317934307501662210-UQBz

[–] [email protected] 2 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

You seem to be really stuck on this. You posted about a grant program that Mozilla is involved in for a startup to work on developing a secure chat on a more open protocol. Now you dug up a LinkedIn post about the same startup attending an unrelated AI technology conference.

No one is saying that Mozilla isn't involved in AI at all. The only thing I said is that the foundation is in trouble because Google antitrust actions are likely to harm their funding. As a result, they are cutting back in a lot of areas, including staffing, AI, and other side projects.

The original article ignorantly and irresponsibly overlooks the basic math of the situation.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 22 hours ago

You could have just said I wasn't wrong about your intentions.